Should hippies take drugs?

here's something I've been thinking about a lot recently, not hippies in particular but why anyone with a sense of social obligation should look at their drug use and the effects it has on the world around them:

ok so things like a bit of home-grown weed aren't really a problem but when we consider that we're quite happy to boycott coca cola/nestle/whoever on moral grounds should we really be buying drugs like cocaine and ecstasy which perpetuate human rights abuses just because we like to party for a night? I'm thinking of boycotting illegal drugs on those grounds, I'm sure it won't get very far but never mind. From now on I think legal drugs are the way to go, you can have a great night on Ritalin and the herbal highs that are freely and legally available without the fear of some Columbian kid having been murdered getting the stuff to you. I'll carry on getting stoned because I don't believe the government has any right to tell me what to put in my body but hopefully I'll start doing it in a more responsible way having just as good a time.

 

Ha ha getting stoned in a responsible way!!!..Doesn't that take the fun out of it...and is that actually possible???

and boycotting illegal drugs.!! (can you boycott something that is illegal?)...Man this is some way out shit...magic monkey you sure you haven't already taken some of those illegal drugs..

and with you all on the shrooms though....

 

lol, I mean in a way responbible to the world at large, not my body, that'd just be going too far!

 

Man don't even try and think about that one when on the drugs...

 

Something doesn't have to be legal to get hit by a boycott, if you don't pay for it they won't grow it, remove the demand and you remove the supply. Besides, I came to realise how hypocritical I was being in boycotting coca cola because of their dealings in a country where I was engouraging human rights violations most weekends.

 

Well that's why I posted it, to get the idea accross to people who didn't think of it, it's a pretty new idea to me as well:&

 

Drugs have NEVER been a requirement. Just, get the guts to protect what YOU care about.

 

I have never thought of drugs as a requirement to being a hippy but they are held in high regard amongst most hippies I've ever met (or have been at some time in their lives).

Not too sure what you mean about the guts thing though...

 

I meant, that, IF there is a cause you care about, go for it.
I myself, smoke pot. You might not. SO? We can still care about the same things in life. I'm into nature.

 

ahh, I get you now.

This is something I'm doing already but it's also something I want to make other people aware of. I know it's probably a bit preachy of me but it's something that the more I think about the more I come to believe in and hope other people will see, hence the post.

 

I don't think it's "Preachy" at all. You have a valid point, and want to educate others.
If they understand the way you word it, they will learn something. One way or the other.
You don't HAVE to DO drugs, to be a Hippy. Is that it? That's what I'm getting at.
(I capitolize words I want to stress.)

 

i figure someones gonna smoke it anyway, might as well be me.....

 

Smoking isn't really that bad to be honest, I know a reasonable amount about the industry and it tends to be a bunch of 20 somethings out for a fast buck, no harm done there. I don't smoke the stuff myself but that's only because I don't like it though, no moral issues there. It's the drugs like speed, cocaine, extacy etc. that I'm talking about here.

 

I think u have a point there... is really hypocritical to choose to stand against companies because they don't respect human rights and instead of drinking coke.. you buy some coke. But I think this problem could be solved if drugs were legal, not totally because still corporations that sell legal products abuse people.. but at least it would be more controlled, and people would be aware of things.

But I.. I don't use drugs for a night of fun, not most of the time, I use them to enter the world they take me in. I think that's a pretty good cause to use them, I consider myself a better person, more "enlightened".. but now that you express this view, have I become this on the expense of others mysery??

 

yeah, the make them legal argument is a great answer on the surface but we have to recognise that's it's never going to actually happen and work inside those boundaries rather than fantasising about what might be.

And you're right, drugs are used for a lot more than just having a good night out but the same results (and even better results ei. salvia) can be found without supporting human rights violations.


I really am starting to get preachy on this one! Maybe it's time to start my own herbal high company and try to reap any benefits!

 

Far Out. A decent debate. Drugs will never be Legal. I agree. Just not for the same reasons. Marijuana will NEVER be legal in the US, because it would undermine the current Powers. The Bi-Partisan sysem would evaporate. The people would actually take the time to READ the Constitution. Heck. Maybe even to think for themselves.
(God Forbid they should do that!)

 

well I don't know about the states but I see a possibility for it being legalised in the UK, it's already not worth a police officers time to stop you for pot any more and is viewed in an ever more relaxed way but pot isn't the issue here as it's a pretty friendly drug by all accounts, a lot more friendly than acohol for instance.

 

excuse the over extended sentences please!!

 

That, kind Sir, was my point in my long winded post.
The US Government is afraid of what Europe is becomming. Greater Europe that is. (And some of the territories! Canada comes to mind.) The current system would fall.

 

From what I've heard about America recently I think they probably go so hard line on pot as it relaxes people and the government seems to want every body imobilised by fear. Having said that it's only based on what I hear about the place which isn't much and I have been known to be very worng before now