Sex offending - what the heck are people thinking?

I expect we've all thought about how traumatic and devastating sexual offenses can be. Being forced into performing unwanted sex acts is what usually comes to my mind. I rarely stop to think what an appropriate punishment would be. I mean, smarter people have that all figured out, right?

But do they? What's really going on? Is it possible to punish some people enough while others are treated unusually cruelly? Does it matter who you are and where you live? I don't have the answers but I happened to watch this documentary and afterward my concern level is now high. Red stage. What are we doing to our people?

 

Where'd you find it?
I thought the place to start it was under politics. There's similar political stuff there. I left it awaiting moderator approval and haven't seen it since until now.

 

Cool. It'll be interesting to see if and what people think on the matter.

 

Seems really unjust to paint all sex-offenders with the same brush. The woman in this video is clearly not a threat to society. Its just political career pandering. It also doesn’t inform the public in a realistic way. Makes me real angry.

 

No idea. We'd drink when I was a teen. Much less of a big deal then (before madd somehow successfully demonized drinking).

 

I know. How is this rapist/avowed molester/probable child molester still a free man?

 

This video doesn't change my opinion on how I feel about pedophiles. I still hate them. Don't touch kids and there won't be a problem.

 

The statistics on reported rape and pedophilia will never be accurate, many victims do not report the crime as such many offenders go unpunished, allowing them to continue.


This father is a Hero
Father who beat daughter’s alleged attacker to death won’t be charged

A grand jury in Texas has decided not to indict a father who beat to death a man he found allegedly sexually abusing his young daughter.

"Under the law, deadly force is justified to stop a sexual assault," Lavaca County District Attorney Heather

 

God bless Texas...

On the flip side, there can be accusers who lie about sexual assault in order to punish someone who they feel has wronged them.

 

I think that those words sum the whole situation up.

It is peoples reaction to anything in life that determines the outcome.

The subject of paedophilia seems to have suddenly dominated this thread, probably because it has become so emotive over recent decades that teachers are frightened to comfort a distressed child, or physically help a child who has fallen over in the street.
In my younger days, we knew to be careful of certain people, but back to your words, "It was no big deal". If we make mountains out of molehills, it will always be the child who suffers when they feel that they have been abused,

Sadly, following one of these "no big deal" moments, people have panicked and a child has been murdered.

Any form of abuse is a very difficult subject and their are some very fine lines along the way.
Unfortunately, I don't know the answers, but I am glad that after a few "no big deal" experiences in my childhood years, I am not pushing the daises up.

 

Anyone taking out a pedophile to protect a child from being further abused should get a free pass. Kudos to the father. He's good in my book.

 

I cannot agree that it’s not a big deal. It was a big deal for me. My whole life has been dogged by what happened when I was a child and a young woman. I’m not pushing up the daises but got close a few times. It ruined what might otherwise have been a happy existence.

 

I am sorry to hear what happened to you, it was obviously very serious and not an isolated incident.

My point was that we have become so fixated on abuse that children grow up confused about the difference between abuse and minor everyday behaviour of people who are quite demonstrative.

My reference to 'pushing up the daises' goes back to an incident a few years ago, where a guy was trying to help a young girl who had fallen over.
She started screaming that the guy had touched her and she was going to tell her parents and in a blind moment of panic the guy murdered her.

At about the same time, I had seen a couple of children playing stupid games jumping over a fast flowing river and it was just my automatic reaction to tell them off in the same way as I would our own children. It was only afterwards that Jane and I were discussing what could have happened if the children had gone home and complained about my intervention. In my case, it would not have bothered me in the slightest and I would still always react in the same way.
Our daughter is a London police officer and I was surprised when she told me recently that a male officer was reluctant to physically prevent a drunk teenage girl from stumbling around on a busy road.

I do not for one moment condone the type of things that happened to you and I am sorry if I gave you any wrong impressions.

 

Ok I get what you meant. Thanks for the clarification. I gotta say though… that guy who murdered the girl may indeed have touched her. Seems weird that he murdered her. He murdered a child. Wow! Do you have a link to that story?

But yes, paedophilia is endemic and so many are afraid of being painted as abusers. All the more reason to do something about the source of why people, mainly men, do sexually abuse children. The system seems geared to assist in these crimes (the sexualisation of young children, sex used in advertising and the effects that has on both males and females alike, very short sentences for offenders etc)

 

I think we've (some of western society) gone off the rails when it comes to things. We've kinda lost common sense along with the sense of personal responsibility. There was a time when we recognized that predators were hiding amongst us, and it was our job to be wary. As parents and as kids, we had to use that sixth sense and steer clear of potential issues. Now it seems most people think it's entirely other people's jobs to provide a safe environment for them where they don't have to be situationally aware and thinking for themselves. If something happens to them, it's totally the fault of the predators and authorities, and their own roles played no part.

So then we have people taking things to extreme (I guess they don't have enough to keep themselves busy) where being touched is somehow an assault. Comparing to the not too distant past, it's become a sterile avoidance culture, humorous in a way up to the point of realizing that we're swirling around the plug hole and our progeny will have a much more robotic existence.

So this case where a young female teacher succumbs to the charms of a young teenage boy who's biggest drive is sexual -- it just seems rather arbitrary that we allow the authorities to tell us that below a certain age people can have sex with each other and above that certain age it's okay too, but nobody can have sex with anybody on the other side of that arbitrary delineation lest the one on the upper side be deemed a predator and the one below a victim. Hmmm. It's "the law" so it's gotta be right, eh? Or when we stop and try to reason it through it seems ridiculous?

It's nothing like a parent or caretaker taking advantage of someone they have power and/or control over. That's "teach em a lesson" territory. But a consensual enjoyment of sexual age people? I don't think what they did to this girl is "justice". In fact, I view it as a crime what the justice system did to her. Acts of love ruined her. And the poor boy is going to go through life tainted by how they portrayed his first lover for loving him. Sad.

 

In the US, all you need is a hint of accusation and the family is dismantled. The accused is hauled off to jail and the children are pulled from the home and placed in protective custody. All this in the name of justice, because somewhere, sometime, somebody "didn't do enough". So the authorities responded with "we can fix that with a small tax hike" and families' American dreams were dashed with no evidence to support the accusations. Did all that "save a child"? Probably. But how many children did it ruin in the process?? Yeah, we don't really talk about that...