Senate Blocked Gun Control Measures

The Senate blocked the proposed gun control measures. Obama isn't happy about it. Victims of gun crimes aren't happy.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/18/us/politics/senate-obama-gun-control.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

 

I saw this earlier... I don't own guns but don't take sides either. Something obviously needs to be done but I don't know what that is...

 

Gun policy in the US is still firmly under the control of the NRA, which is controlled by gun manufacturers. A full 90% public support for expanded background checks wasn't enough. Will voters remember this in November of 2014?

I can't wait to hear those Republican senators running for re-election try to explain why they think gun policy in the US is perfect right now; a big success story, with absolutely no room for improvement.

 

I am very mixed on gun control. I have a concealed weapons permit, but overall guns are something I don't get involved in. They scare me; the permanence of what they can do.
I support the 2nd Amendment, but I also approve background checks and the like and whatever else is needed to keep guns from getting into the wrong hands.

 

90% of Americans wanted expanded background checks. It was more popular than motherhood and apple pie. It has never been clearer that US democracy is broken.

 

Good thing the mob doesn't rule in America, huh?

 

It was an amazing consensus. Most days, you can't get 90% of Americans to agree that the sky is blue and grass is green.

So...you want convicted violent felons and certified nut jobs to be able to keep buying guns at shows. Nice.

There are already laws against such things, but enforcement is on the "honor system". We know how that works.

 

Didn't the op say that the repubs were turned down on wanting more enforcement of those laws?

 

Not at all. I just don't think what happens between two, private citizens is any of the governments business.

That 90% that keeps getting tossed around to me just speaks to how little our own citizens understand how our government works. We are not, and have never been, a democracy. The majority, the mob, does not and must not rule here. That is why Obama's comments yesterday were so fucking disgusting.

 

Gun shows are legit avenues for gun purchase. I'm thinking felons and psychos avoid anything legitimate.

 

Psychos are psychos. Not the most rational kind of person.

 

Not so. I went to my first gun show with a person that had served 8 years for manslaughter.

 

Ok, did he purchase. Was the charge for a car wreck.

 

Such as, negotiating a contract to murder somebody? Selling a girl into sex slavery? Giving someone permission to rape a toddler? No, it's never worked that way. Personal privacy doesn't cover any of that.

Use your brain. You should be able to figure this stuff out.

 

Too many flaws in the new gun control measure they tried sending through... Who's to say who has their mental health under control and who doesn't? Should someone who went overseas to fight for their country who comes back with PTSD have their guns taken away from them when they return home because they have shit ingrained in their mind that no one else has ever witnessed before?

Then there's the black market... nothing controls the black market... people who wanna do bad things will never have a problem finding the right tool to do the job

Something needs to be done... But more rules and restrictions won't help... Killing someone is already a crime.. punishable by death in some states/countries... People still do it... You're not going to stop anything

 

Each of those examples you have cited involve removing the constitutional freedoms of another, or otherwise exploiting someone who cannot give consent. They are not comparable to the selling of a firearm between two parties.

 

It's amusing how making laws to protect the public is equated to making laws that infringes on the rights of public.

 

Aerianne, I'm not very happy about it, either.

 

The thing we should listen to is the THREAT he made against the American people at the end of his *speech*