so in conversation my mom tells me she doesnt think sky should see her daddy naked anymore~ i think i was telling her how she is really intersted in using the potty and follows us in there all the time. i dont think its a big deal, and grew up to be quite self concious of my body despit the fact that my body is totally normal and average. i want sky to be comfortable in her own skin, and not be wierded out by nudity, BUT also not too loose about it. what do you all think?
We still bathe together, shower together, use the bathroom together, etc. I've wondered about that myself. I guess different things work for different families, so far we are fine with our arrangement, but I do wonder when it might be weird to be so naked!
They say that you should stop being naked around a child when they start to notice the difference between themselves and you. My (female) cousin and her son used to take baths together all the time, until her son pointed at her breasts and said, "Mommy, what's that?"
It's my opinion that when either the parent or the child feels uncomfortable with it, then that is the time to be more discreet. As long as the child and the parents don't mind, it isn't a big deal. Here's the thing I tell a LOT of newer moms. DON'T tell your mother everything. Not only isn't it her business, but her mores (or morals, or whatever) may be VERY different than yours. There is a hell of a lot I don't tell my parents, and it's been that way for decades, since I was able to have my own money and go out without my mom with me. I have no desire to be judged by them, or to shock them (I know that isn't what you are doing, but some people do things JUST to piss off thier parents) and it is better to keep your business to yourself. Your mom isn't around when you and your dh are nude, right? So WHY does she have to know? I'd say just close the subject. The better part of Valor is Discretion. (and the better part of a happy home is to not let one's parents into one's business, once one is old enough to go out by oneself. )
Brian and I, being nudists, don't see nudism around Moire as a big deal, even as she grows older. When she gets uncomfortable, we'll stop. But her noticing the difference between genders can become a teaching tool to explain the "birds and the bees" more gradually than one huge talk at 12/13 years old. I mean, it's like if you give a mouse a cookie. She asks about what a penis is, and that leads to curiosity about birth, and sex & sexuality...She learns at her own pace and understanding level about things. If she already knows what a penis is, she won't be so shocked when she's a teen and sees a peer's for the first time...
I grew up seeing women naked all the time (which is how I know I have my Grandmother's breasts, exactly!). Never saw men naked. I think that if I had grown up knowing what a penis looked like, I wouldn't have become sexually active as early as I did...
My daughters and I are a naked lot. The only time it becomes silly is when they point and laugh at my belly or butt. One of my best friends is half-German with a mother who was 100% born and raised in Europe. She practically helped raise me, so I grew up not being ashamed of the naked body. I figure that there are no boys in our house currently, so we can wear whatever we want.
In germany in my generation, it's totally normal to know what your parents look like naked, to be in the bathroom together. Then usually some years before puberty, kids start to feel uncomfortable. Want to be alone in the room while taking a shower, and that was the moment when family bathroom time stopped. It was not so much that seeing my parents naked was uncomfortable for , but me being naked around them. My parents just never made a big deal out of it, and today, now that I am a women, and feel comfortable about myself and my body, I don't have a problem if people see me naked. To me, the fact that parents are only allowed with clothes around their kids, totally smells like puritanism. As long as everybody is positive about being naked, why bother. This OF COURSE excludes anything sexual from adults to children.
I agree with everything that's been said as well. I bathed with our son until he started pointedly checking out our private areas and comparing them. That did make me feel uncomfortable, and so I stopped. My husband continued to take him into the shower for several months longer, as this did not seem to bother him as much. With our daughter, my husband quit taking her into the shower with him when she started reaching out to poke or pinch his penis. Wonder why that bothered him so much??? (heeheehee) I quit bathing with her when long after she'd weaned, she was reaching out and poking/prodding my breasts. I think that comfort level and awareness have a lot to do with this. And if Sky starts noticing things or reaching for things that y'all would rather she not, it's time to stop. If you're uncomfortable, it's time to stop. If your husband is uncomfortable, it's time to stop. If this happens at different times for the two of you, that's okay. And yes, telling your mom everything is a recipe for disaster. I've gotten myself into more than my share of uncomfortable situations because my mom found out something that would have been better left unshared. (((((((((hugs!!!))))))))) love, mom
i also agree that it's cool as long as everyone is comfortable. And yeah, don't tell your mom, haha. I'll never forget the time, when Ryvre was 2.5, that he told his Nana (my mom) "When i grow up, i'm gonna be like daddy...i will have hair on my pee-pee!" i thought my mom was going to faint, and all i could do was shrug, ha!
We are a naked family. Our son sleeps with us every night, and neither I or my husband wear clothes to bed. Sometimes, it is just too hot for clothes, and if he wants his clothes off at home, that is fine too. I don't want him to be self-conscious about his body at all.
I have a funny naked story. When Sage was a toddler (about 18 months or so) she LOVED Martha Stewart. Every morning, we would watch "Marna" to her content. One day Cookie Monster was on Martha. Now, Sage was never a fan of Sesame Street (a lot of kids like it, my first two loved it) as she said it "was too loud and jumpy." Anyway, Marna was making cookies, and Cookie Monster started freaking out, screaming "COOKIE!" and trashing the kitchen. Sage was so scared I had to turn it off, until the next segment. I had to nurse her to calm her down. (Never saw anything violent on Martha before.) A few days later, I was in the shower, (she had seen me naked before and had never really seemed to notice) when I got out of the shower, she STARED at my bush (a fine specimin, I must say so myself) looked horrifed, pointed at it and yelled "COOKIE MOMSTER!!!! AUGHGHGHGHGHGHHGHGHHGGH!" OMG, a phobia of Yonis caused by Cookie Monster? I had to gently explain to her that my Yoni and the hair around it was NOT Cookie monster, nor any monster at all, but she eyed it suspiciously for a few weeks, then recovered, I guess when it never attacked and trashed the kitchen. .
Maggie-that made me laugh I needed that! I grew up in a very open family. We swam in our pool naked as a family till...well the folks still do. There is nothing sexually deviant about it but I know it sounds wierd to some. We are still that open as a family today, my Dad refuses to wear undies and loves short shorts so I see his man parts more than I would like as an adult. And he loves to moon people as well. Haha I agree it is a comfort issue. I streak accross the house even when my folks are visiting they still seem me naked. I remember taking baths with one parent or the other and being so excited about growing up to have pubic hair. I remember when i got my first one I plucked it out and showed it to everyone, My mother of course pointed out the obvious saying "You shouldn't have plucked out your only one now you have none."
Cody and I have been wondering about this lately, too. He's a classic nudist, he absolutly hates his clothes and feels best naked. I on the other hand, hate being naked. I hate the way I look and the way my "fat folds" overlap and feel all gross. But on the other hand, I don't want to pass that on to leane to not be proud of her body, so I have been getting a little more comfortable with being naked and if she is really intently looking at something, I explain what it is. She has become obessed with our nipples...she's a little more 'polite' to Cody's than to mine, but I don't have a problem with her checking them out. She's supposed to be eating from them anyway, lol If any one of us start to appear uncomfortable, then it stops. But I think we'll ask about what's so uncomfortable first. It's natural. If she has questions, I'll explain anything she needs to know. I want her to know the truth about things instead of telling her that babies are delivered my storks or something. lol, actually, last night cody was laying down in bed and Leane and I came in and he was playing with her. I was like, "put some clothes on when you're doing that.." and he says, "what do you think that nudist families do!?" That kinda shut me up...
these stories are so funny, and definately make us feel better! niether of us are uncomfortable being nudie around her, she loves running naked herself! i am definately going to try to be more concious of what i tell my mom. we are really close, but as i get older, and have started a family, our different parenting styles have become apparent. as a matter of fact, shes had a lot to say about almost everything we do with sky~nursing, co sleeping, etc.... ok my turn for a funny story~ sky and i shower got out of the shower, and i was still naked while i was getting her dressed. she makes sure to point out every boo-boo, scratch, and bruise on her so i can put a little neosporin on it. wheni was done i let her hold the tube of neosporin and she made believe she was putting it on my boob, saying boo-boo in a sad voice~hahaha! now i try to remember to call my boobs breasts to avoid any confusion
Wait until she is about five and goes through the "BandAid Years." All my kids at about 4-5-6 went through having to put Bandiads (Sage calls them BYNAIDS) on EVERYTHING. To the point of pointing at things like moles and nipples ect. LOL! My oldest, Sunshine, at one point was going through a box of BandAids a week or less. I had to make a "If there is no blood, we don't use a Band Aid." rule for a while. And I would get "I see blood, mama, maybe you need to put your glasses on." Ha ha......(my dh is always telling me to put my glasses on, because I prefer to strain then to admit I have presbyopia. The kids picked up his tone and everything. )
My BIL stopped showering with his daughter when she started to use his penis for a handhold to keep her balance. I started wearing something to sleep in about a year ago. It just made me uncomfortable to have him poking and prodding everything. He still has an attachment for "Boobie, boobie, boobie" if he gets a chance to see them. Sometimes even when he can't see them. He likes to watch them bounce. He likes to "Get Dada's nipples" when he has the chance also. Sometimes I think that because he wasn't breastfed he feels deprived or something. Kathi