Second time HBWS experience with report

2/18/12 - Saturday - Northern Ohio - 40˚F Clear & Breezy

WHAT WAS USED

1. 6 seeds (ea) - (Indian variety of Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds) (.09g[90mg] avg seed wgt - used .55g[550mg] seed powder - see seed preparation note below)
2. small glass, lightproof bottle (we used a 2 oz glass bottle with a screw on cap and wrapped it up to the neck with aluminum foil)
3. 2oz lime juice - 2 cups of orange juice/grapefruit juice
4. distilled water (in case you want to rinse the little bottle and dump it in the OJ to make sure you got all seed material)

SEED PREPARATION NOTE:

In seeking to standardize the dose somewhat, used a little different seed preparation plan this time.

1. Weighed 13 seeds and then calculated average weight, which was 90mg.
2. Multiplied this by 6 since we wanted to try 6 seeds each this time.
3. Ground up about 50 seeds in the coffee grinder
4. Weighed out 540mg (6 x 90mg/seed) of seed powder for each subject.

PREPARATION

1. grind seeds in coffee grinder as powdery as possibly (easier with more seeds)
2. mix with 1oz of lime juice in lightproof bottle, shake vigorously every 5-10 minutes for 30 minutes - all the while keeping the bottle in the fridge. (You can take it out to shake it, lol.)
3. Dump into 4-6oz glass of OJ, stir quick, and drink down - seed mush and all!

SUBJECT FACTS

• 2 subjects, 42 yo male and woman, 52 yo - same dose for both people
• male's psychedelic experience: LOTS of LSD and mushrooms in the late 80's and early 90's - mushrooms occasionally over the years, recently tried some 5-meo-DALT (weak tryptamine)
• female's previous psychedelic experience: took LSD once in the mid 70's, has tried some less heavy amounts of shrooms and 5-meo-DALT
• Both subjects ate very little today. A couple cups of coffee and a bowl of thai noodles with ginger broth.

THE TIMELINE

• 10:30 am each subject ate one 100mg niacin and one ginko biloba extract capsule (natural vasodialators) - hoping to get a jump on this vasoconstriction.
• 12:30 pm both sujects ate small bowl of thai noodles with ginger broth
• 1:00 pm both subjects drink the potion to start the journey
• 1:15 pm bong hits
• 1:19 pm both subjects already feeling slight effects - female feeling a very slight stomach cramp
• 1:44 pm female says stomach is still a little funny but getting better - deinitely not getting worse - both DEFINITELY feel it coming on
• 4:30 pm peak - and WOW whatta PEAK! - very intense - just ride the wave - don't resist
• new band name - The Steaming Entrees
• 6:00 pm super strong histamine thing - very stuffy nose, watery eyes - like super hay fever - female took some benedryl - male did not
• 6:30 pm peak ends for male
• 7:45-8:00 pm female feels the peak is over for her - still rather intense for both subjects
• 9:30 pm still tripping well
• 10:30 pm - 1:00am somewhere in here tripping stopped - fell asleep - woke at 1am and male noticed he was "kinda more normal"
• 10:30 am Next Day - bot subjects feel rather worn out, but not bad, gonna take a walk, eat fruit & veggies, maybe go bowling

NOTES

* neither subject felt any serious or lasting stomach discomfort
* 6 seeds, for these subjects, was a VERY good trip

PERSONAL THOUGHTS

WOW! This is the second time subjects have tried HBWS and HOLY SHIT! 6 Seeds was enough for them. They had a very good time but were unable to do much of anything. The introspection was wonderful. This was very cathartic - almost an emotional cleansing for lack of a better description

Very happy that it seems diet controls stomach issues - at least for these subjects.

Male Subject's description: very LSD-like with a mushroom intensity (although a bit less). Didn't think it would last 8 hours, but wow, it did.

LAST WEEK'S QUESTIONS

1) Q: Everything I've read about HBRS suggests that some folks have stomach problems NO MATTER WHAT preparation method is used. Is there any real verifiable way to avoid stomach issues? A: So far, it would seem diet is the major player here
2) Q: What's the re-dosing wait on this stuff? A: 7 day appears to be plenty of time for tolerance to settle back down

THIS WEEK'S QUESTIONS

1) Q: Still wondering - does anyone know anything (not hearsay) about the addition of the peppermint/conversion to LSH thing?

 

Good trip report!

 

Could you describe visuals, if any? Probably closed eye ones. For me worthy trip is always with closed eyes bathing in visual glory.

 

More qualitative info?

Also, .9g? Because 90mg is .09g, off by a factor of ten.

 

no visuals - although subjects rarely have gotten visuals on LSD, there were no visuals with HBWS (LSA) to speak of other than some trails with a light in the dark

It's definitely 90mg (.090g) average per seed that was calculated. Sorry if that was confusing or something is labeled incorrectly above.