seconal,tuinal and mandrax

reds,blues and double blues as we used to call them...cant get these in canada for years and years...no idea if you can get them else where but holy shit i used to love these pills in the 70s....2 mandrax and it was impossible to walk straight

these pills used to turn one into jelly...they were popular before all the prozac type shit came on the market

also Quaaludes....where fee waybill from the tubes got his alter ego's name ''quay lude''...you would do dumb shit like fall over while peeing and chip a tooth on the toilette bowl lol

any you old fucks remember these amazing ''downers''

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sounds like 4aces.. lol

 

i'm reading on wik that Mandrax and Quaalude are both Methaqualone and just different manufacturers...i would have known that if we had the internet in 1977

 

I had a large pdr in the 1980s. not the consumer book from the store. the BIG BOOK.. dont know where it come from, but I was just getting into drugs at the time. made good use that thing..

 

Reds were definitely serious 'fender-benders' lol but I found the buzz kinda boring.
Had a girlfriend that loved 'ludes...(boring too)
I'll tell ya what I loved was Nembutal, they were the original 'yellow jackets'
Rockstar drugs for sure.

BTW methaqualone was banned in '76 I think...no medical use

 

yellow jackets...i remember the pill but not the high...was it an upper?


i remember ''black beauties''....caffeine pills...used to be able to get them at truck stops...they caused heart palpatations

 

At this warehouse I worked at last year this dude who was 50 something was asking me if I'd ever tried these and was surprised I had never heard of them.

 

black beauties...i never liked them but when i worked nights they were always around the crew..

.they were strong caffeine pills that were coming in from mexico i think...some where that the make coffee i guess.

...i remember idiots taking umpteen numbers of these in a night and wigging out or beating there girlfriend or some similiar stupid shit...crashing their car etc

 

Now you've hit on two of the the most annoying (to me) appropriations of those slang terms. funny that you bring it up, I considered mentioning it in my earlier post...

Nembutal was a barbiturate, a very nice downer
later the name yellow jackets was applied to a stimulant (never tried 'em)

Black beauties were originally methaqualone+ methamphetamine...never tried those either but I'm told they were very cool. They went away even before the ban on methaqualone. The name black beautys was later used for a powerfull prescription stimulant and then finally those disgusting caffine/ephedrine fakes appropriated all the slang terms. 'Robins eggs' (tuinal) was another if I remember correctly

 

numbutal I know.. <3

 

I once had the pleasure of trying some "Nembudine'.. Nembutal + codine... oh those were fun, bzzz bzzz bee buzz...

 

Had a PDR from the '60s...nothing passed my mouth that wasn't thoroughly identified and cross-referenced for contraindications...LOL:sunny:

 

None of those old timey pills are still around; you'd have as much luck encountering obetrols or desoxyn. Barbiturates, quaaludes, placidyls etc have been entirely replaced by the benzodiazepines and z-drugs. Which is a good thing, because as easy as it is to black out on benzos, they tend to be harder to overdose on than those older sedatives.

 

why cant they be manufactured in clandestine labs?. it just seems like the best opportunity ..

 

I've heard of methaqualone being made in such labs, but would assume it's probably difficult to connect for it.

 

Lotta those old drugs were easy to O.D. on because they made you feel so frickin awesome! Most of what came later was developed to be less addictive than their predecessors, by making the buzz less pleasant. lol Codiene, for instance was developed to be a less addictive pain killer, because it really doesnt smack you back like mophine, a lot harder to O.D. , and the buzz is kinda bunk on its own...
Benzos are a crap buzz compared to a good barbiturate, but you're never going to see those old compounds anywhere outside of a hospital, if they are even still in use. I cant imagine they have completely disappeared, just as Morphine has not.

I don't do anything but coffee, cigs and weed these days, but its been fun talkin' bout the old days!

Cheers fellers, always remember, dont drink and do downers, lotta great artists die that-a-way

 

I've never come across barbs, though people I know who have told me they were overall very comparable to benzos, almost to the point of being practically identical. Then again all compounds that hit GABA A are bound to have some overlap. Anyway, the euphoria from a drug isn't directly related to it's LD 50. Barbiturates are still in use, though not prescribed for anxiety and insomnia like they used to be. I'm pretty sure most lethal injections administered to death row inmates contain a barbiturate.
Codeine wasn't developed, it's one of the natural constituents of the papaver somniferum poppy, like morphine. But you're right about it being a rather weak opiate.

 

holy shit...still available in canada....i love this country...we ship asbestos to third world countries and keep banned drugs on the payroll lol....

have i mentioned that i cant sleep doctor?

 

No you're right, what I should have said was when they were developing codeine as a prescription medication they discovered was more prevelent in the Iranian poppy (Papaver bractreatum)

 

rollin, you better be careful not to OD on barbiturates (which isn't very hard from what i understand - could be propaganda though), or else someone might butt fuck your wife on your grave for messing around with that pre-internet garbage

probably not a huge market for stuff like this since only old people know about it :sunny:


my cousin once asked me if i wanted some "beaners." the container said yellowjackets and they were from a convenience store, so i doubt they were the good ones