Science is only good enough SOMETIMES?

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by heeh2, Aug 24, 2010.

  1. heeh2

    heeh2 Senior Member

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    Dogma did not produce computers. It does not calculate the trajectory of falling satellites or give light to your living quarters.

    We do not throw random pieces of metal and glass into a box and call it a television. You would not disregard the laws of gravity in an attempted moon landing. You would not ignore thermal dynamics when piloting a hot air balloon.

    Why then? Why do people attempt to construct an idea arbitrarily, or uphold ideas that fit this criteria?

    Why is science only good enough sometimes?
     
  2. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    God created science.
     
  3. heeh2

    heeh2 Senior Member

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    A well-known scientist (some say it was Bertrand Russell) gave a public lecture on astronomy. He described how the earth orbits around the sun and how the sun, in turn, orbits around the center of a vast collection of stars called our galaxy. At the end of the lecture, a little old lady at the back of the room got up and said: "What you have told us is rubbish. The world is really a flat plate supported on the back of a giant tortoise." The scientist gave a superior smile before replying, "What is the tortoise standing on?" "You're very clever, young man, very clever", said the old lady. "But it's turtles all the way down!"
     
  4. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    Anything you say I can reply "because god created it that way" and you cannot disprove me. I think that annoys you. -giggle-
     
  5. heeh2

    heeh2 Senior Member

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    Please stop responding to my threads.
     
  6. spazmataz

    spazmataz Member

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    doubt it, just makes u look stupid
     
  7. scratcho

    scratcho Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Fear of recognizing we're not much of anything other than biological trash when our demise is upon us. We wish to remain ourselves forever,if I understand what you're saying.
     
  8. Okiefreak

    Okiefreak Senior Member

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    Science is always "good enough" for the purposes for which it is intended: to gain reliable empirical data through rigorous testing of falsifiable hypotheses. It tends to be best at avoiding type 1 errors (credulity) but at the risk of type 2 errors ( excessive skepticism). Its tendency toward reductionism can sometimes lead to misleading conclusions, and it isn't much good with questions of ultimate meaning.
     
  9. lunarverse

    lunarverse The Living End

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    Bertrand Russell? Is this true?
     
  10. Duck

    Duck quack. Lifetime Supporter

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    Sorry Irminsul, but I gotta agree.
     
  11. Dejavu

    Dejavu Until the great unbanning

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    Good enough for what?! Be clear!
     
  12. heeh2

    heeh2 Senior Member

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    I don't know, but the story would match the chronology.

    Good enough for understanding the universe.
     
  13. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    Science is nothing without cognition.
     
  14. Dejavu

    Dejavu Until the great unbanning

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    If it was, wouldn't we understand it already? :D

    I'm all for improvement. Interdisciplinary movement between its many branches should be encouraged.
     
  15. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    We show up. Sometimes we pay attention. I'm for unfolding.
     
  16. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    Science can only assist with our reckoning.
     
  17. heeh2

    heeh2 Senior Member

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    It also consists of our reckoning.
     

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