Schizophrenia

Does anyone know what it actually is?is it like a mental illness?....Is it something that starts at birth?....is it possible for it to vanish?.....I was reading it up on wikipedia earlier, and i wanted to see if anyone on here knows somebody with it or had it?

 

I actually work with schizophrenics everyday.
I'm a PCA at a facility for the criminally insane.
Schizophrenia is a mental illness that is usually defined by three things
1) The presence of hallucinations
2) The presence of delusions
3) The inability to control emotions (AKA their emotions often control their actions.)

 

ahhh i see, so would you see a dude with schizophrenia as some type of scientific study or do you try to help lol...And is it curable?...I say this because a person from where i live is considered one of those by most, he usually smokes ciggs in a park and walks around.

 

Smoking cigarettes and walking in the park isn't especially indicative of schizophrenia.
I don't think schizophrenia is curable in the sense you are using.....it isn't like when you go into the doctors office with the flu and they give you some meds and in a week you feel fine. Schizophrenics dont take medication to cure their illness, they take them to alleviate their symptoms. Their entire persona and mind is schizophrenic, it's how they have come to interpret the world. To cure that would be to destroy whoever you were talking about and start anew, and I don't think that is possible, at least not with the understanding of the mind we currently have.

 

i meant it as thats all he ever does, id say iam very wrong though...The only times ive seen him thats hes done lol...I couldnt fucking stand being something that walks around and smokes ciggeretes for a livving....Iam more of a drunk lol


and thats why i wanted to know if it was curable?...Ive heard shit has a away of going away lol

 

also if "schizophrenics" are not studied id say why not? lmao

 

Oh they are definitely studied.

 

iam having odd thoughts rigght now...But if it by defintion means the inability of feeling emotions or not feeling emotions would i have been considered a schizofrenic by my neighborhood?...I mean i was a completely different person after all that hoopla shit,iam not afraid to talk about it lol

 

Schizophrenics feel emotions....The only thing about emotions I was saying is that they usually can't control them.

 

wait are you suggesting your schizophrenic? im pretty sre you would know if you were

 

many schizophrenics dont know they are as such and many dont believe it when shown and told. this is the nature of delusions, paranoia, and raging emotions.

 

schizophrenics are people who failed to properly convey the experience of themselves to psychiatrists

 

Only a very select few, none of whom are affiliated with the mainstream psychiatric industry.

That would depend upon your definition of mental illness. All currently recognized mental illnesses are simply amplified versions of fundamental ego-based perceptual distortions. The only true mental illness is the state of ego identification itself.

From a conventional perspective, one is often genetically predisposed towards a mental illness, "schizophrenia" included. Actually, most people are born with a mental illness far more detrimental than schizophrenia: the state of being inclined towards conforming to the perceptual and value based parameters associated with the status quo. You may know this condition by its more common designation: being well-adjusted.

Absolutely. But one must first reframe their conceptions of what schizophrenia is at its essence. This isn't something one will accomplish by following the "recovery plans" of the those who have been indoctrinated by the psychiatric industry (most of whom are textbook narcissists and megalomaniacs who like the comfort that narrow-minded categorization and defining their self image as someone who "knows" can afford those who prefer the soulless existence of all who believe that the conceptual mind is actually capable of doing anything more important than winning trivial pursuit ).

I was diagnosed with a mental illness under the schizophreniform umbrella category about 6 years ago, and had a close friend with all of the classic schizophrenic symptoms up until a few years ago. I have always been blessed with a free spirit, however, and never bought into the rhetoric of the industry. Instead, I sought to overcome my existential quandary by addressing the source of my problem, that of ego-identification, which is something that the western medical establishment is totally unequipped to do. I have since had some of the most fulfilling and revelatory experiences of my life.

Travis

 

oh thanks for letting me know

 

another person who has never met someone with profound schizophrenia

radareyes: there is a big difference between being "schizoid type personality" or whatever and having true crippling schizophrenia. just like how i've been diagnosed with depression, anxiety, OCD, yet i would never call myself a "depressed person" or someone who's life is torn apart by anxiety or OCD.

heres an analogy for you, showing the difference between what youre talking about and what this thread is talking about.

my OCD: i bite my nails

bad OCD: has not left home for 25 years because that would mean stepping on a crack eventually.

ok? this is not a problem of western science, even though that itself is a floundering sinking vessel of evil. even without western science, even if we all lived in mountain caves and tattood pictures of Buddha onto our foreheads, you would not want to share your cave with someone who was deeply schizophrenic.

 

Like I said, I had a close friend who was deeply and classically schizophrenic: Violent outbursts, demonic hallucinations, voices in his head -- the works. It's interesting that you chose the caves with forehead Buddha tattoos scenario to illustrate your "point" to me though, as often times establishing a sense of community can be tremendously rehabilitative to severely debilitated schizophrenics. Would I have been willing to live in close quarters in a spiritually-oriented community with my old friend given the right circumstances? Without hesitation.

And yes, it absolutely is a problem of western science, unless you're basically relegating all severe cases of schizophrenia into the suppress symptoms in order to restore a semblance of a cohesive, societally acceptable persona category. It's really very simple, Mr. Writer. Western approach = address symptoms without understanding the source of the problem. When patient exhibits enough symptom relief, encourage a lifetime of anesthesized pain through reliance upon spirit-crushing and side-effect-laden medication and "feedback loop" talk therapy. What I'm advocating is a more wholistic approach that only addresses the symptoms when absolutely necessary, caters to the individual needs of the person in question, and always maintains its focus on the true source of the problem: ego.

Travis

 

rygoody is right, in terms of a diagnosis. I know two "schizoprenic" people, one my aunt and the other my uncle.

Aunt's case: Won't stop laughing long enough to know what a fork is, or what it is used for. Has had severe schizophrenia for 30 years, but doesn't remember what she had for breakfast. The use of a language is for the most part futile.

Uncle's case: Had severe PTSD from a war. Given all sorts of medication after being diagnosed with schizophrenia, eventually dealt with it using mushrooms, lsd and marijuana. Lives comfortably and is an adrenaline junky, has been all his life.

I would not want to share a cave with my aunt. My uncle, on the other hand...:sifone:

 

Iam sugessting that from reading the defination of a schizo i posess profound similarties to it......It doesnt bother whhat iam or what iam not i just need to lift myself out of how i was several months ago....Does a schizo recognize the situation? lol

 

Oh my x-boyfreind's dad was totally a schitzo..
Like crazy man.

 

Please describe what you mean by ego identification radareyes. For the most part I agree with you but having seen my best friend/bassist stop taking his manic/depression meds and hearing about him running around in his underwear and a soc before having a shotgun drawn on him and the police called I know that without his meds there is no way he can exist in our society, we just don't have room for people who decorate the streets with their clothes. Sorry man he may be free without his meds but he is not the least cognizant without them. I wish there could be another way I love him with all my heart.