Save the earth now

Discussion in 'The Environment' started by Macrodoller, Aug 7, 2004.

  1. Macrodoller

    Macrodoller Member

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    I'm sure most of us here realise that global warming is a real problem and the way we are treating the earth is going to destroy us all. We're all saying how its bad, but we need to ACT! Why don't we all start protests, and I mean big ones, clogging up the roads and bringing business in the capitals to a halt, that way the governments would have to pay attention to us.

    What do you think? Could we gather enough people to our cause to trigger real chaos in several countries, I suppose the US is most important as it refuses to sign Kyoto and contributes 25% of the worlds pollution.
     
  2. TrippinBTM

    TrippinBTM Ramblin' Man

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    I agree, we must start doing something, and political expressions like that are important.

    Lets also stop using so much oil. Ride a bike or walk where you need to go, rather than drive. If everyone did it, the problem would be much less, so this isn't some stupid token effort. I know I stopped driving for the most part, and thus haven't filled up my car more than once in the last two months (for a pickup truck, thats astounding). And I live in the suburbs, where cars are king, so it can be done. Plus it's healthy...which means you not only save in the short term, but probably in the long term when it comes to your health and healthcare costs.

    Also, start recycling more. Get the word out, encourage others. Be annoying about it. Add to the "reduce, reuse, recycle" the two other R's: rethink and refuse. Reconsider before you buy something, and decide if you need it. If you don't need it, refuse to buy it. This is expecially important when it comes to things with lots of packaging or things that are one-use-only.

    I see lots of people talking about these things, but people are too lazy. If we care, we'll do these things, and spread the word to others. No one is going to do it for us, it really is up to us to save the world.
     
  3. backtothelab

    backtothelab Senior Member

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    I try to keep my head up, but really, it's all going to hell. You have bush privatizing the epa, you have bush killing the clean air/clean water act, you have people out in africa and india killing the 12,000 rhinos we have left(that was in 1995, btw), you have asians killing sharks and bluefin tuna, you have the russians and indians killing the tigers, it just does'nt fucking end. Now we have that damn hole in the sky. Once that hole starts opening up, thats whats gonna do us in. The sea will die, our crops will die, we'll all get cancer and kick. We all, including myself, do these little things to save what we can, but it's not enough. It's never enough. Look at all the money bush is spending on the war, now imagine what we could of done with half-- a quater of that money. 5% of the world controls 95% of the money. No matter what we do, if they don't want it to happen, it does'nt. I pray for a plauge, for earth's sake.
     
  4. Macrodoller

    Macrodoller Member

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    Well Bush will be gone soon enough. As you said us on our own doing our part is not enough, we need to try and put a stop to this large scale, which means huge protests, not violent, but very disruptive. Perhaps blocking roads, surround the white house and other important buildings.
     
  5. Willy_Wonka_27

    Willy_Wonka_27 Surrender to the Flow

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    ok ill try
     
  6. maryjaneguitargurl

    maryjaneguitargurl I am just like you.

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    ride a bike! people! people are too damn lazy to ride bikes

    peace
    chickens
     
  7. seda-azul8

    seda-azul8 Member

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    Yeah man..But like not everybody lives in your state..dig?

    You'd have to get like a petition or some crap like that or some way of contacting people in each 50 states to like clogg the roads and stuff.lmao.Hey,that would be far-out.But global warming?I think you should start somewhere a bit lower like litter..I mean take a look outside right now,and I'm sure you'll find a whole load of crap tanked out on the sidewalks and streets.
    I know it's a fine to litter but--the cops seems to be doing nothing about that.

    So we should get a group of people in each state to go and like anger the goverment so they'll do something about litter..It makes me sick.
     
  8. TrippinBTM

    TrippinBTM Ramblin' Man

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    Why aim so low? You'll never get anything done with such low hopes. We need to be doing EVERYTHING we can, right NOW. Litter looks bad but it won't cause heat waves or ice ages. Global warming might do either one.
     
  9. seda-azul8

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    ok..I'd do it..I'm up for that.but how?and who the hell will help?
    I don't see many people in my state that seem like they give a slight damn about that. all I see in my state,are purile little gothic and punk kids hanging outside on the street of the movie theatre,because they have no life,or nothing better to do.nobody like me,i dont even have friends..lmao
     
  10. seda-azul8

    seda-azul8 Member

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    i ride a bike..lol.
     
  11. openmind

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    and have nt been tried since the poor bastard was asasinated
    noor has india herd a word he said against globalisation
     
  12. Soulless||Chaos

    Soulless||Chaos SelfInducedExistence

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    from what i've read it's a little late to do anything about the global warming problem, we're already screwed if it happens like some people think it will with the gulf stream slowing down then stopping and plunging us into an ice age... supposedly its already slowed down a lot and looks like it's going to stop whether we make changes or not. of course it could just be another doomsday theory or something, but if it did happen i for one think it would be kind of cool... like what this place predicts it would totaly shake crap up and there would be tons of opportunity for change
     
  13. undefined

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    I really dont think that just holding demonstrations is the answer. demonstrations will get peoples attention, but it wont mean squat if we cant offer some kind of solutions to the problems we are bringing up. for example, the oil industry is simply destroying our atmosphere. there are so many alternative clean ways to get energy that its just sick how little they are being used. solar power could be just the thing we need to get off of our dependance an oil, foreign or otherwise. think about it, calculators come with a little solar stip on them so that you dont need batteries, just a light source. look how freakin small of a solar cell is needed to power that thing! why cant it just become sort of mandatory to put little solar strips on things like that? laptops,coffee makers, just about anything. also, any and all new houses should be required to get a solar panel to supplement energy. wind power is another really good source, but it is a bit more dependant on local land features to be usefull. Water power is also an option, but i think we have built enough dams in the world. The fish should be left to come and go as nature intended.

    There is another side to the story besides just power. everywhere it seems there is a food or water shortage, be it droughts or the fact that its a 3rd world country. There are many alternative sources of water than just rivers, lakes, undergoudnt tables. theres rainwater, and dew, and fog. i read something recently about something called a dew pond, and while it seems circumstantial, i think its worth a try in many situations. and as for food, there is this wonderful techneque called square foot gardening. although im not sure i would be willing to test it, the inventor ventures to say that with his technique, a person can have a yearly supply of food from a 4x4 ft garden plot. even if this is a little bit of an exageration, this method could seriously solve many hunger crises all over the place. For anyone thats interested in solving the sewage problem, i suggest reading the humanure handbook. beware that it may gross some people out.

    my point is that people need to be educated in what could be done, rather than just pushing it in there face that something needs to be done. i encourage others to go and find other solutions. be open-minded.
     
  14. earthling2

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    It's Worser Than Worse, With Cutbacks, Environmental Degradation, And More Direct Action Definitly Needs To Be Taken. Even The Smallest Thing You Think You Do, Will Have A Reaction. Write, Even If You Think You Cannot.
     
  15. hippychickmommy

    hippychickmommy Sugar and Spice

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    I worry all of the time what type of world my children will be living in as they grow older. This place is completely being destroyed, and not too many people seem to care. It's just heart-breaking. I hate the way things are anymore. We've got to do something, because we're killing our planet, but unfortunately, we just keep on doing it anyway.

    Peace, love, and happiness.
     
  16. forest_pixie84

    forest_pixie84 Senior Member

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    i agree with you, if your in highschool you can get a club started about the environment, give it a catchy name. people in college can do the same thing. or if you don't do either of those, just get some friends and have them call their friends. you can even get some kind of group together at church, for those of you who attend. you can hold meetings like every 2 weeks or something, but make sure there's snacks there and maybe a movie for afterwards for those less enthusiastic... but look up facts on all the important issues, see how it might pertain to your area. as your club gets bigger it'll be easier to branch out into bigger areas. im gonna try, we CAN save the world, but only if we want to.
     
  17. hippyman

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    Excuse me if I'm wrong, but last time I checked, wasn't the hole in the O-zone getting smaller?
     
  18. element7

    element7 Random fool

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    I've had that going to hell in a handbasket feeling for quite some time. I've been thinking about something that kind of goes along with this though. Seems to me that demonstrations and protests are always centrally located and easily spun by the media in this country. We all know what sort of rap any kind of protest gets, if it's not negative it's just a generic pass over without any attention paid to the issues. The average person gets their news from sources like that so really, nothing happens. They go about their buisiness and do nothing because they're not informed. The idea of resistance on a mass scale hitting every little nook and cranny of a town at the same time might raise a few more eyebrows and it would give the couch potatoes an opportunity to engage in real life and meet some of these protesters and maybe actually get some of the truth as well as find out that we're not just a bunch of lunatics. I can picture it in my head. Huge demonstrations in the major cities with smaller ones all happenning simultaneously in all these smaller towns.
     
  19. TrippinBTM

    TrippinBTM Ramblin' Man

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    I think it might be cool to do a moving protest. I don't know if it's ever been done, but we could organize a group of like-minded people and just go across the US, stopping along the way to speak and stage protests in the cities. It wouldn't have to be a huge group, because it'd be a unique protest, moving across small and big town america alike, and also city natives could come out and join us for the day. That would get significant coverage in the media, I would think.

    But like Undefined said, there would have to be solutions, not just lists of problems and complaints. I think that's a big part of a successful demonstration. If you have solutions, you have a plan and a way of progress. If you don't have solutions, all you have is a big group of angry, disillusioned people gathering to bitch about society. A solution driven protest would be the best, because maybe people would see we aren't a threat (thus perhaps less police brutality) and would take us seriously.
     
  20. forest_pixie84

    forest_pixie84 Senior Member

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    sounds like someone who might be in cahoots with the oil companies...
     

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