So I'm watching The Dark Knight with my room mate, both still tripping on LSD taken about 6 hours earlier, and for some reason I decide to take a large hit of salvia right at the scene where the Joker walks in on the mobster's meeting. Well, I rip it, hold it in, and as I finally blow it out, I watch as the Joker begins to climb out of the tv screen towards me. His mouth bubbles and froths with blood, and his eyes and sockets turn a menacing black. They seem to pierce into me. He starts yelling, mainly berating and scolding. This causes me great fear and confusion, and the salvia pulls me further so I end up lost in my head. And now I hear laughing echoing around me. My utter terror and confusion has spawned raucous laughter from some unknown source, and I suddenly realize I have no idea where I am or who I am or who I ever was. Total confusion. I seem to be in some alternate dimension, I feel I was just woken up from some impossibly complex illusion or dream. And then I locate the source of the horrible laughter. Two overseers are laughing at me, clearly amused by my confused state. I feel them comment to each other: "Hahahahah! How hilariously pathetic! He truly thought all of that was real!" ...All of that? What was all of that? I had some life before this moment.. But it is gone and I do not remember any detail of it! All I know is that I did believe it to be real, and now it is gone and I think I want it back! I at least want to remember! The Overseers fade, and I finally seem aware and able enough to use my eyes and process my surroundings again. I look around the room, at my dog sleeping, at the tv, still not remembering anything. Finally I see my room mate, and I do not know what I am staring at. It moves. I move. Oh! I look down at my body and lift my hands up to stare at them, and then I look back at my room mate. We are alike. But what the fuck are we? I feel so strange, I do not like this body I was put back into. Why is this other being staring at me so? It makes me feel strange. It is strange. I am strange. "Are you okay?" Floods of memory! Hahahaha! My friend! I think I remember now. But I do not like the way I feel. I feel awfully strange. I think I am on drugs, and I just recently smoked salvia. Around this moment I am coming down and trying to move past the salvia experience by remembering how tripping can be good and enjoyable. It was a very cool and exhilarating mind-fuck once I processed it. I know I kind of freaked my room mate out, he kept telling me some of the stuff I was doing, like trying to speak and completely failing at it haha. He said at one point, in a span of 1-2 minutes, I stood up and laid back on the couch about 15-20 times. I think I was so disturbed by the body high and how I felt, I didn't know what to do with myself and tried to move around to make it go away. It wasn't pleasant at all, but was such a mindfuck that I don't regret one second of it. It was the first time I ever did drugs and was so fucked up and twisted that I forgot what drugs even were.
stick with lsd + dmt. i've gone far off the deep end, but never lsd + salvia, that just doesn't sound pleasant.
Now there's something you dont hear every day, Salvia and LSD! I could imagine how out of this world that would be, salvia is intense enough alone. Sounded amazing, its always good to look fear in the face and laugh. You should try to get a hold of some Dmt next time. It is 10x more intense, and also a lot less frightening. Good stuff though, happy trails!
haha yea salvia and lsd is a major mindfuck. i was on one hit of good acid and my freind convinced me to smoke some. i took two big bong rips of 10 x and annonounced "i don't think i got enough". immediately after all sense of normal reality dissapeared and all laws of physics lost their meaning. there were no boundaries between anything and everything flowed into each other at an extremely fast rate. then i was shifted through a multitude of different parallel universes where i kept seeing different versions of my freinds doing ordinary things and having different conversations(none of them happened in reality). it was like all the outcomes were possible, and that my consciousness were connected to these outcomes. meanwhile, while i experienced all this, my friends said i wouldn't give them the bong when they tried to take it and probably almost broke it. then i tried to pull one of my freinds on the ground, spun in a circle, and sat down cross legged. fucking craziest, most bizarre experience of my life. later that night i experienced a very strange phone call http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=344520&highlight=strange+phone+call+i+received&f=117
Sounds wild. I too have experienced LSD and Salvia a few years back... It wasn't enjoyable like I have found LSD and DMT to be. The LSD and Salvia literally were having conversations in my head about where to throw me next. During the peak of both substances; what ever it was that represented LSD in my brain sent me a message telepathically asking me if "it" wasn't enough. If LSD wasn't enough of a "trip" for me. So Salvia chimed in and together they took me for quite the ride. At that point of my life/trip I realized that I was tripping to get "fucked up". The combo (LSD+Salvia) was a very informitive experience about respect for substances and my mind... just intensely uncomfortable.
Sounds awesome!! Salvia and Lsd are actually my favorite psycadelics i can't believe i never thought of that!! Thanks for the idea.
I can honestly say i would'nt ever mix the 2 myself, ive allways found salvia to be sinister and awekward, and not somthing id want on an acid trip .. Good on ya for delving that deep in an alternative way though .. suppose someones got to go there ..
I can't see myself ever trying salvia again, I have to agree it seems very sinister and awkward, and quite an unpleasant body high. When tripping, I'll stick to weed, nitrous, and try to get my hands on some DMT.
yours and cataclysmic conditioning's salvia while on lsd experiences sound alot like my normal salvia experiences. experiencing multitudes of parallel universes, and complete dissolution from normal reality. there is a pretty vast realm there. i wonder what it means, or if it is possible to experience without extreme fear.
Anybody remember "blue boy" from the cop show " Hawaii 5-0" back in the '70s. They had this kid tripp'in and painted himself blue. I beleave he jumped out a window at some point. But this combo I can see someone FREAK'IN OUT! They are making a new movie of hawaii 5-0. Wonder if blue boy will be on it?
Yeh i can understand you not wanting to go there again .. haha, its proper evil " Imo that is " though i know a fair few that realy respect salvia, just too extreme for me to get on with the undesireable effects, and my skin allways feels realy dirty afterwards, i realy overheat when on salvia aswell .. Dmt on the other hand, from the many hours reading ive done im realy waning to have a go with that, sounds like pure magic, and real insight to be gained from this substance .. Ill track it down one day ..
Exactly, I like the mental mindfuck of it, but the physical high is gross. I feel sticky like when you are sweating and you sit on a chair with the plastic covering protecting it, and your skin sticks to it. I think the physical high partly keeps me from enjoying the mental aspect of it. I still have some so I'm sure I'll try it one last time, but I will not fork over anymore cash for it.
Thats just one of the aspects that make salvia so great, i like to get so fucked up on it to get as uncomfortable as i possibly can, to push my limits and get adrenaline rush. Thats what salvia is an art, to make your mind feel like somethings not ok it's truley amazing.
Thats what i'm sayin. I'm not really into lsd anymore though Iv'e done about 50 hits this year and i don't feel the same. I will do it when i go snowboarding though i have one more hit in my drawer, mabey at the end of that day when i'm still tripping i'll smoke some salvia.
you've made me realize that i was bugged out by the salvia body high too. i thought the mind trip was just too intense for me to notice it, which i guess is partly true. but i was rolling and somersaulting all over the place, which goes with what you said about trying to get comfortable. i was pretty sweaty when i came down, but by then the body high was probably pretty much gone. that is why i said before that it wasn't that bad - because i was thinking of it after the primary effects wore off. the body high was pretty fuckin weird, only i didn't pay much attention to it, because the mind trip was WAY crazier