Run From the Cure

Discussion in 'Cannabis and Marijuana' started by Sunny Jim, Mar 28, 2008.

  1. Sunny Jim

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  2. st. stephen

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    idk it seems way to good to beleive
     
  3. ishade32

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    if its hard to believe then why would they make that whole documentary

    and why would they lie
     
  4. Lady of the Freaks

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    omg. this is huge.
     
  5. tculi

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    i believe it. i mean thc has been proven to reduce tumor growth, therefore high concentrated thc has the potential to cure cancer. and i have never understood why marijuana is illegal but this video answers my question. weed being legal = thousands of people cured of cancers and other diseases = loss of hundreds of thousands of jobs in the cancer industry + massive drug companies dont make any money on their drugs
     
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    tculi - yeah i know its screwed up they prefer to watch people die and take medicine that doesnt work rather than give them THE cure (its not just 'a' cure, its 'the' cure).
     
  7. i2ghostman

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    Dont be rediculious marijuana cant cure cancer no more than drinking your own urine.
    These statement in the medical community make you look like a wack job!! Even if they are true. How do you expect anyone to take you seriously,

    When you look one minute, how fucked up I was last night partying with marijuana. The other minute, it cures cancer.. not very serious is it?

    btw I didnt watch the youtube, cause this information is 2000 years old!!! or 3000 years...
     
  8. Lady of the Freaks

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    you should do a little research before you flap your gums too much. there have been many bonified scientific studies done over the years that indicate that cannabinoids have a curative affect on humans. i'm just surprised to see one of the more conservative elements of western society actually approaching the subject with an open mind. a bunch of old canadian guys who are about as radical as my old granny actually tried it before passing judgement. maybe you should do the same.
     
  9. i2ghostman

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    Why do the reseach on something I already know about!! thats stupid..... I got news for you. Its not NEWS dude!! its history and I was a teenager once too pushing to legalize marijuana. Im not against marijuana, Im saying this isnt news. The reason why there isnt a fountain of youth? To many people pissing in the pool!!!!!!!!!
     
  10. HaTeD-oN-MoStly

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    great. now we need to discover the cure for AIDS.
     
  11. Lady of the Freaks

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    maybe if you tried a little harder to express yourself so you can be understood, your message would get across. you said it was stupid to think cannabis oil could cure cancer. well, here's a bunch of old conservative types who saw some of the scientific studies on how cannabinoids have curative properties and tried it themselves and documented the positive results. these are not the kind of people who typically are open minded about such things, but their disease opened their minds to new possibilities when medical science told them to go home to suffer and die.

    we have new scientific studies coming out each passing year documenting the medical usefulness of cannabis for things it was previously not thought useful for. scientists are starting to study and unlock the mysteries of the human cannabinoid receptors in the neurological system. not quite sure why you want to shout the sharing of progress down, but i'm glad to see it. maybe you should actually watch the series of videos. you may not realize that they've discovered curative effects from a particular form of cannabis. they're not talkin about smokin weed.
     
  12. phenix23

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    I'm extremely skeptical that this works. I watched the first few parts and it seems like many of the other herbal scams they have out there. I mean the research is done by pro-hemp-oil people, not prominent doctors and scientist. They say that hemp-oil has been used for thousands of year to cure diseases. However, people used to use mercury, leeches and herbs to "cure" diseases in the past. Also everyday there are new articles about cures for cancer, (i know about the cannabis ones) there is fish blood, anti-oxidants, a shit load of herbal cures, prayer, and other crazy crap.

    I mean with all thing pro-hemp, they talk about big phrama/ the gov, keeping hemp illegal to make money, which sounds like more bullshit to me. Big phrama has its agenda but i doubt keeping hemp illegal is on it.

    I think people need to look at the facts. Today we have the longest life expectancy ever achieved by humans. EVER!!! We are getting better and better at treating cancer and other diseases. One of the biggest advances is in early detection, which leads to more effective treatments.

    Also hemp isn't illegal in every country. I don't see people in Amsterdam using hemp-oil to treat every disease.

    I love weed as much as the next hip-forums member, and I try to keep an open-mind to new ideas. But cancer is no joke and people going around saying that hemp is a cure-all is just making it worse for people who are pro-hemp for real reasons like using it to make clothing, fibers, bio-fuel, and other uses.

    I believe that cannabis had it use in cancer treatment as something to effect the effects of chemotherapy and for glycoma but really anymore than that seems to be pushing it.
     
  13. Lady of the Freaks

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    you can't call it a scam unless they're selling something. unless i missed something, they aren't selling anything. i watched all 7 videos on youtube and read every page of their website. i don't recall them trying to sell anything. the guy who started the whole thing was growing plants and making the hemp oil for people he knew free of charge.

    they're not saying it's a cure-all, they're saying it caused major improvement with every symptom they've tried it for so far...including cancers that they actually had already exhausted medical treatment options for. i can't understand the widespread readiness to deny suffering people the use of a plant which can help. believe me, when your turn comes, you'll understand where these people are coming from.

    cannabinoid receptors can be found throughout the human body. therefore, cannabinoids can obviously affect our functioning in many ways. they are still being studied, and are not yet perfectly understood. but there are many scientists contributing to a growing body of evidence that cannabinoids have multiple curative effects. putting those scientists down for studying cannabinoid receptors strikes me as being somewhat ridiculous. why should any part of the body not be studied or understood? as far as scientists developing an interest in this area, what tends to happen is people realize what cannabinoids can do, they quickly become 'pro-hemp people'. same goes for the folks in this video series. of course they're bursting with enthusiasm. they cured diseases that were killing them, and they're understandably excited about it!

    you have an obviously pro-medical view that i cannot share. the people i've personally known who have been treated medically for cancer have been hacked up, burned and poisoned, and suffered horribly before finally dying a hideous death. and by the way, just as there are lots of less than effective 'herbal' cures touted through the ages, there have been plenty of 'crazy medical cures' and 'crazy medical practices'. still are.
     
  14. phenix23

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    I didn't mean scam like telemarketing fraud, I meant to say that they are clamming things that are probably not true. They also made some wild claims to what hemp-oil is capable of doing, using only anecdotal evidence to back it up. Also i was looking for real hard evidence which these videos didn't come up with. As for a scientist and doctors are concerned I didn't see a harvard medical professor citing references to hemp-oil healing powers. Much of the evidence was from pro-hemp-oil organizations.

    Unfortunately I have had family and older friends of the family that have had heart attacks, cancer, strokes etc. The treatments were painful, but most of them are fine today. Also none of them were burned, or suffered terrible deaths. I will concede that my great grandmother who fought cancer and multiple hip fractures, had a very hard final year but I blame the conditions of the Canadian health care system and the fact that they were just prolonging the inevitable for her suffering. My grand-father on the other hand got cancer from smoking and he was fine afterwards.

    I feel that the medical community has given so much to society, from vaccines for polio to penicillin, they have done some great work. also most doctors and health care workers are out to save lives, not to hurt people. There are always those that wish to profit from human suffering and pain, but most people are looking to help.

    I understand that you are not a pro-medical person and I respect your stance to seek and even encourage different medical treatments. I would love to see more studies (unbiased) done on cannabis and really find out if it has the ability to cure and treat various cancers. However for the time being I remain a skeptic. I also believe that if you want results the only place to look is the medical community, because much of these herbal cures end up being nothing more that placebo effects.

    Anyway I think we can all agree that cannabis should be legalized for any use, whether it be recreational, medical, or industrial.
     
  15. Lady of the Freaks

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    that we can! :)
     
  16. stratface

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    if weed is the cure for cancer, i bet we can cure hiv with crack.
     
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    When I first started smoking I did so accepting the idea that I was probaby increasing my risk for cancer. The only connection I'd heard between the two was that weed has more carcinogens than tobacco, which of course greatly increases your risk. That made plenty of sense and was completely credible.

    Research like that in the links below started getting my attention, though, and now I'm just waiting for even more studies to back them up. I definitely wouldn't argue to someone who's against marijuana that it cures cancer, a few credible studies aren't enough to prove anything scientifically, but I believe now that, at least, it doesn't cause cancer. Check these out.

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/04/070417193338.htm
    http://www.webmd.com/lung-cancer/news/20060523/pot-smoking-not-linked-to-lung-cancer
     
  18. Sunny Jim

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    Great articles. If this research is accurate, just imagine what highly concentrated doses of THC could do. I have to admit that I am a little skeptical, but the government has lied to us about marijuana so many times that I wouldn't be surprised if it were true. If I ever get cancer again, I'm definately gonna try this out, that's for damn sure.
     
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    Alright after watching the first part, this study doesn't seem credible, I mean I would love pot to be the cure for cancer, but there are so many things that could have attributed to these people being cured. The video doesn't go as in depth as I thought it would have either.

    Pot should be legal, but I think these Canadians are pushing a little too hard.
     

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