Royal birth

Discussion in 'U.K.' started by etherea, Jul 22, 2013.

  1. etherea

    etherea mother of the idiot children

    Oh no! It's on it's way! Batten down the hatches, don't read a newspaper or listen to the radio from here on in! Sicofancy rules!
  2. Willy Blue

    Willy Blue Senior Member

    Someone please lock me in a darkened room until the child is at least 12 years old. You do realise though that no other woman has ever had a child and the millions this child will cost the tax payers is obviously money well spent!!!

    Sarcasm so becomes me.

    GLENGLEN Lifetime Supporter

    I Wish Them Well And Hope That She Gives Birth To

    A Happy, Healthy, Boy/Girl...:)

    Cheers Glen.
  4. Willy Blue

    Willy Blue Senior Member

    I wish the child no harm Glen, just dont want to hear about it for the rest of my natural.
  5. odonII

    odonII O

    *insert long boring speech about the cost of the royal family compared to how much they generate for the UK GDP etc - the fact why should they have large tracts of land etc*

    I managed to avoid big brother. I think I can avoid this.
  6. i like the idea that since i left home for work this monring and till i get home this evening this is all going on and ive missed all coverage of it, wish them all the best regardless
  7. etherea

    etherea mother of the idiot children

    Oh no you haven't missed it at all. The press are all still camped outside the hospital with cameras trained on doors. How can you bear to miss such knicker wetting excitement?
  8. desert-rat

    desert-rat Senior Member

    The docs have this thing , it looks a bit like a pool stick with a point on the end of it . It breaks the yoke sack , or some thing like that . Just use one of these things and be done with .
    p.s. They used one on my g.f. , she was a pool player , I kidder her on this . Just poke this royal pane in the ass and let the kid be born .
  9. unedited

    unedited Member

    Woohoo! I for one am pretty happy that we're getting an addition to the royal bloodline.

    Yeah yeah there's a lot of flag-waving and excitement and publicity, but that's part of the process - the reconnection of the monarchy to the public, the reaffirmation of the symbiotic bond between crown and people. The only thing that annoys me is how most of the enthusiasm for the royal family is about patriotism, or tourism, or history, or just aren't-they-a-nice -couple or other such meaningless cr*p.

    The constitutional monarchy keeps us safe from tyranny! IT KEEPS US SAFE FROM TYRANNY!

    If that's not worth getting a bit happy about, what the f*ck is?!


  10. odonII

    odonII O

    How so?
  11. desert-rat

    desert-rat Senior Member

    I thought it was the British legal system , Parlement , Prime minister , courts , ect. that kept you form tyranny , the royal family was just a hold back to the old days of when they had a king running things .
  12. odonII

    odonII O

    Or Queen ;) There has only been 5-6 but hey ho.
  13. desert-rat

    desert-rat Senior Member

    I meant either king or queen .
  14. unedited

    unedited Member

    The Constitutional Monarchy acts as a check and balance on Parliamentary tyranny (true story). It's the equivalent of the American Constitution, but better because it's more flexible and has been developed, modified, negotiated, refined and improved day by day for 1000 years - the beauty is that because the British Constitution isn't written down, it is just an ethereal conceptual mass of traditions and conventions it can move with the times much more easily... but it is also very real - because it's embodied in the flesh and blood monarch. (gushing over)(for now)

    But huzzah HUZZAH! It's a boy! I'd a preferred a girl, just for the hell of it, but ach. In the end it's all good.
  15. unedited

    unedited Member

    Because the existence of the monarch acts as a passive (key point) counter-weight to the active power of an elected but potentially unrepresentative, potentially tyrannous parliament.

    It's a passive power, it hasn't had to be used but the reason it hasn't had to be used is because the fact it exists prevents parliament from thinking about trying tyranny on.

    An example of the tyranny btw would be if an election result threw up a coalition of Conservative, UKIP and EDL/BNP members of parliament who'd been elected on a low turnout/low majorities/split left wing vote... and the right wing, unrepresentative, but still elected coalition, THEN DECIDED to abolish any more elections. Democracy isn't perfect, it does need checks and balances, safety mechanisms for the 'just in case' scenarios.

    In this instance, civil unrest would then give the monarch a mandate to refuse royal assent to the law abandoning future elections.

    This is a relatively unlikely scenario, but the without the royal family it becomes a lot LESS unlikely.

    Egypt just found out the problems of electing a president - yes Morsi got more votes than any other candidate... but he was elected by the largest minority... not an actual majority. And then he made a power grab, changed the constitution, tried to impose the will of a minority, a large minority but still a minority, on the rest of the country.

    Yes, a hereditary monarch as head of state is counter-intuitive, it doesn't quite make sense - but that's the beauty. Because it doesn't quite make sense, the monarch must keep the people onside - ie they can't abuse their powers - because the system ONLY makes sense for as long as it isn't abused.

    Our current political problems are caused by how we elect MPs and how they behave once elected and how much influence the corporations have on them... not anything to do with the monarchy.


    (edit - a much more succinct way of putting it would be:

    It's like the Monarch, as head of the armed forces, holds a gun to parliament's head... and we the people hold the sword of republicanism over the monarch's head. A mexican stand-off of counterbalancing powers.)
  16. Mike Suicide

    Mike Suicide Sweet and Tender Hooligan

    how much you wanna bet this kid becomes king before Charles.
  17. odonII

    odonII O


    That makes sense. Thanks.
  18. SpacemanSpiff

    SpacemanSpiff Visitor

    i wish Diana were still around to enjoy her first grandkid //

    GLENGLEN Lifetime Supporter

    I'm Sure She's Up There Watching Over Them...:)

    Cheers Glen.
  20. avoided all new till 9:50 to hear it was a boy them went to sleep.
    Unedited you should check out namaste magazine, they have alot of articals about the connstituion you might enjoy.....
    i think any baby born is a reason to celbrate becasue life is precious, kinda cool though that if you were born on the same day you get a silver coin

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