Respecting the conscious of others

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  1. inthelibrary

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    do you consider others or is it all about you?
     
  2. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    I do because I feel like I have a lot of empathy so naturally I'm aware of a person's state. Maybe not so much in the heat of the moment, moments like a rush or adrenaline or something. Then it's pretty much me first I guess, I think that's natural though save yourself first, then help but tbh in a life and death situation I'm not really sure what my reactions or considerations would be?
     
  3. I'minmyunderwear

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    i've been known to be both. i suspect this is true for most people.
     
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  4. YouFreeMe

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    It depends on the situation, don't you think?
     
  5. themnax

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    its about a universe in which i experience neither, geology, geography, botany, infrastructure, mazes, landscapes, imagination.
    wishing no harm and that everyone can enjoy it, not them or me, but a universe which even them is only a part of, and me not needing to own,
    but to make and to play by making.

    is that all about me? or is it all about everything that is beyond all of us and in which i am surrounded by?

    i do have a problem with the idea many people have that everything begins and ends with people,
    to me that is unnatural and uninteresting and simply not supported by what can be observed.

    of course i thing the reason so many people can only see people is because so many live in cities where everything else is obscure,
    hidden by what is built and paved over as if all reality beyond each other were mere inconvenience,
    when in reality all of us are an accident of everything else, all of nature and all of space, that we would not exist without.

    so yes i think of not so much others as otherness, beyond the box of just humans and their interactions.
    however much there is also how that box shapes our perceptions and feelings about it.

    the whole begging and ending with humans thing is just mind numbing, when there is such a limitlessness diverse beyond-ness of it.
    when i dream, most of the time, i don't even notice that i have a physical form, let alone how that physical form might appear.

    its all about the landscapes and the experiencing of them, even when i am where i can only see by imagining them.
    there is an 'i' of course, and that 'i' attempts to make pictures, of that surrounding landscape how i would like to see it and to be.

    i also like to think that landscape is one others would enjoy more then one we have, that is created by hating logic that doesn't end with our species or our planet.
     
  6. Joshua Tree

    Joshua Tree Remain In Light

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    I'm too hung up on myself a lot of the time, which gets in the way of thinking of others. I spend a lot of time alone which doesn't help.
     
  7. Adamskiffle

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    Yes I do definitely consider others, though, admittedly their are lapses at times.
     
  8. themnax

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    its the awareness of not being the only consciousness there is that takes practice when you're little.
    growing up doesn't mean leaving imagination behind, it means leaving behind the idea of being the center of the universe.
    the distinction is non-trivial.
     
  9. Ashalicious

    Ashalicious Senior Member

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    If it were all about me, I wouldn't be going to school to become a counsellor.
     
  10. Total Darkness

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    In the long run, its always about me.
     
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  11. Asmodean

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    You didn't really answer the OPs question with that ;) Just because its always mainly about ourselves doesn't mean we don't respect other peoples awareness, presence or (perhaps even opposite) mindsets. I suspect you do at least to certain extent. To me it also comes kind of natural; doesn't mean I pander or cater to those other people in all instances.
    In fact, i wonder how OP would answer the question himself :p
     
  12. lode

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    What if helping people makes you feel good inside? Can you be sure you're not helping others for the feel good rush?
     
  13. Total Darkness

    Total Darkness 100% Cocoa

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    I did answer. :D

    But yes you are correct. I do posses a high level of acceptance and human decency.
     
  14. tikoo

    tikoo Senior Member

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    Otherness is a consideration . When is it meaningless ? The absence of meaning , this may patiently be tolerated . I
    am averse to dictating reality , but you well know that such a force may come against you as an authority possessed by
    madness . What's to do ? A positive anarchy must prevail .
     
  15. themnax

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    yes and no. because the kind of world you have to live in is a really major part of your experience of living in it.
    and the statistic of how all of us treat that world, and thus each other, is a major part of what makes that world how it is to experience.

    that may sound a bit obscure, but its the logical basis of any real morality.
     
  16. Ashalicious

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    Spending many years and thousands of dollars for a "feel good rush" seems kind of juvenile, don't you think?

    I was meant to be counsellor. It's one of my higher purposes. It's my form of activism. It's so much more than a "feel good rush".
     
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  17. lode

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    I dunno.... does exercising because it makes you feel better seem juvenile?

    Anyway, it's just something I ask myself sometimes. I'm not trying to troll. It sounds like you're a good person Ash, and I'm glad the world has people like you.
     
  18. Ashalicious

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    You are right, though. Helping people does make me feel good. It isn't completely selfless. I'm empathetic by nature, a good listener, and I care deeply for other people (sometimes without even knowing why). I'm grateful that I am on a career path that will allow me to put those skills to a positive use.
     
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    I’m somebody who gets frustrated easily as i have a short fuse.
    I like to make sure that people are ok first before sticking up for them.
     

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