Resisting vaccines?

If someone were to have a child, how would they resist giving their child vaccinations?

 

There is actually no law requiring vaccination, though many are lead to believe that's the case. When it comes to school, exemptions are part of every state law, so it's not exactly compulsory.

 

Thanks. That's what I thought.. all I needed to know.

 

i've had 3, and one was neurologically damaged by an adverse reaction to a vaccine. yes, there are currently exemptions...however, realistically depending on where you are and the people who are in control of the school system, etc...there are things that make your life more difficult when you resist vaccines. it's a complicated subject and not easy to address comprehensively in a post.

 

Huhm... I recently(last night) had a similar convo with my girlfriend who will be having our first child soon about my reservations when it comes to vaccines. She was understanding and actually has my viewpoints but is it really in a parents best interests if they don't know that they will be able to afford the health coverage in case something goes down later in life?...
and about mercury(thimerosal) content in vaccines...is it factual? what about the risks of autism... alex jones speaks of the third treatment/18th month correlation in children(what exact vaccine is he referencing?
thanks

 

The risk of autism from being vaccinated is very real, and as children are subjected to an increasing number of vaccinations before kindergarten, the rate of autism has increased exponentially. Not only autism, but childhood arthritis, cancer, neurological disorders, and a slew of other ailments which are often shrugged off by the medical establishment as not being related to vaccination.

The real reason behind vaccinations as they are currently administered has nothing to do with preventing diseases, most of which were eradicated long ago. It's to dumb down the population and destroy people's natural immunity, leaving them open to disease further down the road. It's a form of population control, and this is why we're seeing ever-increasing numbers of rare and often untreatable cancers turning up in young children.

People like Bertrand Russell wrote about this openly back in the 40's and 50's, saying how they would use injections to make sure the public could be better controlled and manipulated to serve the system.

This passage was taken from Russell's book, titled The Impact of Science on Society (1953) pp.49-50:

Scientific societies are as yet in their infancy. . . . It is to be expected that advances in physiology and psychology will give governments much more control over individual mentality than they now have even in totalitarian countries. Fitche laid it down that education should aim at destroying free will, so that, after pupils have left school, they shall be incapable, throughout the rest of their lives, of thinking or acting otherwise than as their schoolmasters would have wished.

Diet, injections, and injunctions will combine, from a very early age, to produce the sort of character and the sort of beliefs that the authorities consider desirable, and any serious criticism of the powers that be will become psychologically impossible.

Gradually, by selective breeding, the congenital differences between rulers and ruled will increase until they become almost different species. A revolt of the plebs would become as unthinkable as an organized insurrection of sheep against the practice of eating mutton.

 

The danger of mercury in vaccines is very real. I'm a very high-functioning autistic, and my mother claims that she began seeing signs of autism right when I was about four, which is when I was getting lots of vaccinations.

 

Just don't get your kids vaccinated. I haven't had any shots since I was 10

 

Just say no.

 

I don't have any kids, so I can't really know exactly what it's like to have to make the decision, but I think i would probably vaccinate them.

In response to Rats post, the fact that the diseases were "eradicated long ago" has nothing to do with why we still vaccinate. Just because we don't have it here doesn't mean it doesn't exist in other places. Secondly, even if it is extremely rare and we stop vaccinating, it can jump back and begin infecting those who weren't vaccinated. It has been happening recently with childhood stuff like measles and mumps, maybe even polio in a few cases. Thing is, a lot of people are vaccinated, and the ones who aren't are usually safe because the disease can't survive long enough to reach the one person in a school/office building/ subway train that isn't vaccinated. Essentially, the ones who are not vaccinated are riding on the assumption that everyone else is vaccinated. I don't know about you, but I'd rather not have polio explode back onto the scene and do what it did during the early 1900's and before. I finally have a source for this argument, it isn't completely theoretical/hypothetical; National Geographic, 2, maybe three months back ran an entire article on this.

As for the mercury preservative in vaccinations, I was under the impression that they acknowledged that it was causing illness in children and have started using different preservatives. Maybe this is just the typical "brainwashing evil gonna-rule-the-world" media keeping me satiated with the infamous "beer and football" and just assuring me everything is OK, but that is what I heard.

The Mushroom Man

 

http://educate-yourself.org/vcd/

 

My father had polio as a child. My mother died of menengitis at age 23. It would never occur to me to resist vaccines for my children.

No real scientifically proven connection between vaccines and autism has been demonstrated. Mercury-free vaccines for children are available, in any case, if you're still worried.

As more people don't vaccinate, epidemics of things like measles are coming back. These diseases haven't by any means been eradicated.

 

But, why would you willingly put a toxic chemical into your body?

 

well, goody for you. my kid is autistic because of an adverse reaction to a vaccine...so it's kinda hard for me to have your rosy view. i'd helluva lot rather have a kid with the measles than without the ability to communicate or function in this world. helluva tradeoff if you ask me. and no one gives a fuck when it happens to a kid either. they just throw him into the trash bin, and you spend all your time, energy and money trying to pull him back out.

 

I took my son to his first well baby clinic and was asked to sign a paper saying I would not hold the medical establishment responsible any potential damage that vaccine could do to my child. The nurse was saying oh it's no big deal just sign it. I declined signing and started reading about vaccines cause I figured they knew something was in the vaccine that could harm him otherwise they would not be asking me to sign this form. I found out that many health care professionals do not vaccinate their children. I guess because they know what's in them.

I let my son have some vaccine. He had the polio one because I found out that polio is actually still floating around and is air borne. I discussed my concerns with his doctor and he ordered him some special vaccines without the mercury and also gave him half dosages while he was under 2 years old. The peace of mind that he was vaccinated but without the mercury was very comforting to me.

I do have a nephew who is autistic started showing signs right after he had a vaccine at about 18 months.

I hope you will read up on your options and talk to the child's doctor and don't sign anything you are not sure of concerning vaccinating your child until you do your homework.

 

Yeah, I find it sad that some people in this world can view any human life as "expendable."

 

Sorry to hear this :grouphug:

 

Were trying for our first child and have already talked all these things through and done the research. We will selectively vaccinate, the vast majority of the vaccines pushed on kids will be left out, and with more than good reason. Every parent is well within their rights to just say no

 

i prefer "medical waste" as a proper term

 

Goody for me??!! My mother died at 23, when I was 2 years old from a disease that can now be prevented by a vaccine and that's your response? I'm sorry about your child, but I think you're being a little harsh to me. It's about a hell of a lot more than measles.

People used to die or be horribly disabled (ever heard of an iron lung?) by diseases that can be prevented now. That's a good thing in my book.