Removing the low E string...

Discussion in 'Performing Arts' started by soulrebel51, Mar 6, 2005.

  1. soulrebel51

    soulrebel51 i's a folkie.

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    is what I wanna do..

    All the songs I've written, I don't use that string at all.. I find it be a huge nuisance (sp?), and took it off once.... the tuning of all the other strings became really out of wack... why was that? And would it be possible for me to remove top saddle on the birdge, and evenly position the other 5?

    :eek: Or should I just quite now :(
     
  2. rhasta.penguin

    rhasta.penguin No more hippy...ugh

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    im guessing your guitar is like mine, and has the type of bridge that lifts off the guitar. forgot what its called, but my fender has the same thing on it. The thing with thoughs bridges is that if one string breaks, the whole bridge lowers, and gets the whole guitar out of tune.

    Its very possible to have just five strings (i break my low E string all the time :( .), and i dont think you have remove the saddle, just leave it. Also you may concider wanting to use the Low E string down the road, ya never know.
     
  3. RandomDrunkGuy

    RandomDrunkGuy Member

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    All the strings are your friends! Even if you don't use them, keep'um on Fiddle, or else you'll look like some quasi-talented Kobain-Klone.
     
  4. dhs

    dhs Senior Member

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    why not just buy a capo? get the guitar in a range that you are most comfortable in

    i myself could never live without any of the six strings
     
  5. syd

    syd Banned

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    the E is great for bass notes..............
     
  6. samson

    samson Hepcat

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    you are messing with math beyond your control!hehe
    Between tension rods and neck bowing, its best just to keep it on. If you dont want it to make any noise, dampen it with a small piece of cloth or the like.
     
  7. soulrebel51

    soulrebel51 i's a folkie.

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    Not that I'm trying to copy him or anything...

    But Keith (Richards) only played with 5 strings.

    I discovered this while trying to find more info on it..

    And yes, I have the bridge that lifts off the guitar... I guess I'll just wait until I can buy another one :p

    Or maybe not.... blah blah blah blah blah blah :D


    Oh and I've got a capo [​IMG]
     
  8. EllisDTripp

    EllisDTripp Green Secessionist

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    Because when you removed one string, you altered the tension in the neck by (roughly) 1/6. The tension change alters the tuning of the other strings...
     
  9. soulrebel51

    soulrebel51 i's a folkie.

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    That's what I thought might've happened... can I retune all the other strings, or will they always be out of tune?
     
  10. EllisDTripp

    EllisDTripp Green Secessionist

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    Retune the other strings and you should be fine. You will probably see even more interaction between tuning adjustments than usual, though. It may take 2-3 sets of adjustmants to get all the remaining strings in tune.
     
  11. Orsino2

    Orsino2 Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    They always will be. It's a technical thing and it helps to have all six or it'll be off balance...

    As for the bridge, I don't suppose you've blocked it, and it's called a floating tremolo... as non-hardtail strats are. It's not called string-through unless it's a telecaster and I know you have a Squier Black and Chrome model Strat. Though, I use 5 strings and it isn't that big of a deal with tuning and all. It gets irritating at times if it goes out of tune. Just unscrew your saddle and the saddle spring on the bridge for the low E and put it somewhere safe so it would rattle. You may also want to take the low E tuner (top E on the headstock) off as I know the tuners on those Squiers can be a gigantic pain in the ass...actually, almost any tuners besides the locking kluson brushed chrome ones and the 50s style kluson deluxes suck major ass... though, you can buy the Kluson locking ones for about $40 at any shop that deals Fender... (just never go to a guitar center... they'll bullshit you)
     
  12. dhs

    dhs Senior Member

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    Keith doesn't necesarily play with just 5 strings all the time. He uses a lot of open tunings allowing him to play the E as an open string, while he creates his riffs with the other 5.

    I would try and work on your right hand a lot where you just play the other 5 and avoid the low E if thats the way you like to play. Practice by playing A position bar chords where the low E is muted to get a better feel for it.
     
  13. soulrebel51

    soulrebel51 i's a folkie.

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    When I play barre chords, I end up muting the top string with my thumb.. for the most part, it doesn't make any difference.

    I'll just not mess with anything for now. :D


    Thanks George and Ryan and everybody. :)
     
  14. RoBoWaLkEr

    RoBoWaLkEr Member

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    Just leave it on there. Its really not that hard to just mute it, or avoid it.
     
  15. Orsino2

    Orsino2 Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    yeah... I do a lot of palm muting... seems to work for me.
     
  16. soulrebel51

    soulrebel51 i's a folkie.

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    I removed it... 'twas fun and somewhat nerveracking, when I thought I lost the spring. :D

    I like this a lot better... I've prolly played 7+ hours already today.
     
  17. RoBoWaLkEr

    RoBoWaLkEr Member

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    Mmhhmm...BUT, let's hear you play Longview? Or how about Come as you are? Can't, can ya you limey bastard!!! ;)

    Hah j/k man. Do what you like best, that's what music is all about!
     
  18. Peace

    Peace In complete harmony.

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    I don't see the point in removing it. The bass tone of the low E evens out the tener tone of the high E or whatever. Just learn to play with it.
     
  19. RoBoWaLkEr

    RoBoWaLkEr Member

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    Finally! You learned to use normal letters...now my eyes aren't bleeding anymore. :p
     
  20. Orsino2

    Orsino2 Hip Forums Supporter HipForums Supporter

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    probably because he's not on adderall or something. :p
     
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