I just think there are more complex issues behind human retardation. Assholes will exist with religion or without. Josef, Mao and Adolf were athiests. If I am not mistaken athiesm has killed a fuck load of people.
Atheism hasn't killed that many people, if any at all. All the people slaughtered by Josef, Mao, and the mustached fellow weren't slaughtered in the name of religion, but in the name of a different ideal (which was rather or at least partially opposed to religion, but still... it wasn't in the name of atheism). But, I disagree, religion has proven to be a wonderful scapegoat for evil behaviour. The masses buy that shit up.
People could also argue that pot is a scapegoat for evil behaviour...... But we all know that's bullshit right?
Yes, you are correct. It was not under the banner of athiesm...still it was perpetrated by athiests, following so called scientific logic. I sort of meant scapegoat in a different sense. I was talking about athiests who think religion is the primary cause of certain wars and other examples of cruelty (which in a sense it is) whilst paying little attention to the various other complex factors that may have shaped the values of the perpetrators. It is a scapegoat for athiests in that it allows athiests the luxury of not having to think about these other things, and not having to face the fact that humans are assholes, with or without religion.
violence is human nature. i think people fail to realize that most of the religious wars are done for religions that consider any act of violence immoral
...which makes it completely irrelevant. If an atheist kills a ******, is it atheism that's responsible for the murder or the individual? Yes, dumb atheists blame it all on religion. That is why they are dumb.
Of course not. But is it not an example where man is capable of stupidity where religion is absent? Whilst other men may be capable of great reason where religion is present?
But his mother was a Juden! The title of this thread was all that needed to be said. Of course, followed by "DUH!".
Who distorted (or at least commanded men who distorted) the views of Charles Darwin. Lets not get into the blame game that I started. I'm currently working on the idea that whatever our view is on the existence of the supernatural (outside of reason) can be, and often is irrelevant to whether humans are "good", "reasonable" and "happy".
Religion more than not is not the scapegoat for "evil" behavior it is the cause of it. After all anything can be justified by god.
I already explained my reasoning for the word scapegoat. I also disagree that it is a cause of evil behaviour, people are the cause, their philosophical beliefs are the facilitator. There is a complex relationship between the two.
This is what happens when you leave biblical passage open to interpretation. Does it say "beat your daughter" or "beat off to your daughter"? I don't read Aramaic so I honestly don't know.