Recovering the hallucinatory functions of the mind.

Discussion in 'LSD - Acid Trips' started by rygoody, Aug 18, 2009.

  1. MovedOn

    MovedOn Senior Member

    Messages:
    1,466
    Likes Received:
    4
    Whenever I get to the point of, lets call it, when you have opened the third eye and your seeing visuals. Not just wavey objects and forms. But the auras and essentially visually encoded information. I feel like, I am supposed to stay like that.

    I feel like the typical thought cycle is that, you get high, you open the third eye, then you come back down, and it closes, because the third eye being open is part of the drugs effect. But I feel like, the third eye being open should be an innate function of human concioussness. It should always be open. And I feel like part of the point of LSD is to pry it open, to keep it open.

    Now as I type this I am somewhat fearful, because if this were to become a self-fullfilling prophecy and if someday I trip, but the visuals don't wear off. That kind of scares me, deeply scares me. All rational thought process, most of my flesh says, the third eye needs to close.

    But there is a part of me, rather deep, that I can tell feels it needs to stay open. That the point of tripping isn't to simply experience the third eye, the hallucinatory functions of the mind, but is rather to recover them, permanently.

    I believe that as babies the third eye is open. You start with the hallucinatory functions of the mind active. But they shut down because of this society. This society trains them out of you from day 1. This is part of the downfall of our culture. It replaces innate cognitive functions with manmade ones. So instead of seeing energy directly, seeing the atomic structure of matter directly, this society scares those functions out of you. This culture essentially fills your third eye with fearful imagery and concepts, so that you then shut it down by simple instinct. And then once that occurs, once the third eye is shut and you can no longer percieve truth directly, they replace it with man-made concepts of truth. Science, Religion, or other. I feel that a necessary step for a society that is to progress into the future is to recover the third eye and re-employ it for it's natural function. That being, direct perception of truth. Because I do not believe that any book, or any words, from anyone, in any form, can guide humanity into the future. Only the full realization of our concioussness can. And a fully realized concioussness has the third eye constantly open.

    Whenever I get on LSD I get the distinct feeling that, if I were able to keep my mind, my energy, in perfect balance, in perfect harmony, my third eye would not close again. But once the LSD starts wearing down, and allows the fearful energies of society impact me again, it closes it down.

    I feel that this is LSD's true purpose. Not an aid for self-realization. Not an aid to artists and self-exploration. Not an aid to creativity or anything dealing with spirituality, or philosophy or any that. It is not a tool to produce something on paper, artwork, writing or other. But it is rather a tool to change the very physiology of our brain and body. It is a tool to manifest a new form of concioussness, that will remain permanently. And one component of this new concioussness is essentially, the third eye open indefinately. And this is a necessary stepping stone for humanity. I don't think society can sustain itself if people keep going to books, words and thoughts in their head for truth.

    I'm curious to know, does anyone else feel this way?
     
  2. deleted

    deleted Visitor

    reserved. brb.. :D
     
  3. burnabowl

    burnabowl Dancing Tree

    Messages:
    1,792
    Likes Received:
    3
    Wow Ry you always seem to be having the same thoughts that I do. You basically described the exact dialogue I have with myself at various times, and especially in the past week.

    I'm sick with a cold right now so it's hard to respond in detail, but I'll probly have more to say in a day or two.

    It really does seem like visually encoded information. it seems like something is being presented to me in full clarity, only it is elusive in meaning. It's clear as day yet I have no idea what to make of it. I've read that we should take these visual phenomena as indicators or reflections of our real or deeper selves.

    I can't even begin to name anything that I see. It's all still there and I havent eaten acid since May, and even then it was half a tab. I've hardly smoked any weed and yet those visuals are still there. Actually they've been there since I was a kid, but only a small fraction of it. I'd describe it as looking through a keyhole in a door and seeing something small but real, and later after having acid, I fully opened the door and saw exactly what I saw fifteen years ago, only that portion is now seen in a much broader and more profound context. Kinda like focusing on one dot in a Seurat painting unable or unwilling to see the painting itself until something like acid comes along and pulls you a few feet back and you still see the dot you were staring at as well as the painting it is a part of.

    I also feel like the grounded and rational side of me is trying to deny the visual gifts, but they are much too meaningful and too elaborately crafted to dismiss. It's funny that you mention the fear vibrations of society because when I feel that fearful energy, the 3rd eye stuff is very disrupted and "splotchy".

    Honestly if I give the visions more than a couple of minutes of my full attention they become full blown cev's on a scale similar to that of an acid trip.
     
  4. draco H.

    draco H. Member

    Messages:
    596
    Likes Received:
    0
    Basically, this is a MUCH better explained version of what I was trying to explain to myself during a shroom trip. I basically said that societies ways make us plan for the future always, ever single motion, thing we do in life nowadays is pre planned, we plan it all the time and its what causes trails...all trails of all senses are caused by non planned things. idk I'm not very good at explaining it...but I know the feeling your talking about with acid, its a certain point where the visuals become very less noticed but more pronouced in colours and patterns and visual information, and you learn not to give a fuck about any manmade distractions and just go deep into your mind....seems exactly what the peak of most of my acid trips were like, unfortunatly been almost a year since ive dropped it, I have a connection for it but he's at some pretty bunk blotters (friends opinion, not mine) so I havent really had interest.
     
  5. Mr.Writer

    Mr.Writer Senior Member

    Messages:
    14,286
    Likes Received:
    644
    maybe we weren't meant to do it alone. Terrence Mckenna says that the entire message of the last ten thousand years is that we CANT do it alone, that we DO need help from the world around us, from these visionary substances. This possible truth doesnt taste too bad, incorporating organism into landscape as it does :D

    How could you ever even get to sleep if you constantly saw LSD-peak strength stuff? Certainly it is too late for any organism already old enough to take LSD to adapt its brain to be able to function forever in that state, but I think even a human born and fed LSD from birth would simply suffer tremendous damage to its world. i think it would be lovely to constantly have the third eye open in the same way that it would be lovely if all the world leaders suddenly became mature beings. However I think all we can handle are these brief eyeblinks of opportunity to have the reality of reality impressed upon our brains so firmly that we don't feel like we've come down completely for weeks and months afterwards.

    It also depends on the specific organism. I might be a better candidate for having my third eye constantly open than Peter Popper, but even I would not take that pill, no siree. There is no way I wouldn't blow my brains out at like day 15. There is just far too big of a gap between what human life is right now and what human life would be with third eye blown wide open.

    Besides, isn't the better angle to realize that what the third eye sees is there always, regardless of whether or not your third eye is open to see it at any arbitrary point in spacetime? Take the analogy to normal vision. Sure, blind people would want to see, and not just sometimes and in a poor fashion with their hands, but they dont need to see always to know that the world is there, in front of them.
     
  6. neuroptican

    neuroptican ...hadouken!

    Messages:
    1,757
    Likes Received:
    1
    No I don't feel this way. Enjoyed your thoughts, but I think you think too much.
     
  7. itsallgood

    itsallgood Senior Member

    Messages:
    3,914
    Likes Received:
    0
    the third eye is optional...If used it can lead to wonders beyond capable thinking, if not then a boring non wonderful life will be lead with most likly alot of drinking, some crack, maybe some hookers and other funky shit...If my third eye was not opened i would probably not be online right now and i woiuld most likly be having a hooker shit on my chest, thats just how i was before trippage occured

    And iam not saying leading a life like that is bad for body in anyway, infact i applaud a life like that.
     
  8. inthydreams911

    inthydreams911 Senior Member

    Messages:
    2,223
    Likes Received:
    5
    Perhaps we are supposed to learn how to control the third eye, so we can open and close it whenever we want.

    Like controlling the mind, many people think the state of "no-mind" means you lose your mind forever, never is it to be touched again. Really though it is the mastering of the mind, we see it is a machine, a tool, and we can hit the on and off switch whenever we please.
     
  9. y Epitaph x

    y Epitaph x Member

    Messages:
    422
    Likes Received:
    0
    I don't know if LSDs function is to keep the third eye open :p

    In my opinion... LSD is going to be used like medicine soon, or like food, for people.

    We'll take LSD every once in a while ... :)
    And be healthier people. More wisdom.

    I too agree with Mr. Writer, if there were something to take to make my third eye blown wide open all the time... I would take it, actually.

    But only if it were once in a while.

    Like acid...

    >_>

    :D
     
  10. spiralout23

    spiralout23 Member

    Messages:
    688
    Likes Received:
    0
    wow i have those same thoughts in my head all the time.....synchronycities just keep occurring leading to the idea that maybe psychedelics are here to make for an easier transition into our next phase of evolution.... reading daniel pinchbeck's 2012: The Return of Queatzylcoatl its along the same lines as this idea
     
  11. spiralout23

    spiralout23 Member

    Messages:
    688
    Likes Received:
    0
  12. MovedOn

    MovedOn Senior Member

    Messages:
    1,466
    Likes Received:
    4
    As I said in my opening post. My rational mind is saying pretty much the same thing your saying. It says to integrate it, take some understanding from it like, knowing its always there, or whatever and integrate it, then leave it. My rational mind says it would be terrifying to have it always open. That you can't do that.

    But theres something somewhere that feels, learning to keep it open is a necessary step in human concioussness.

    Which I also do realize this could quite literally take another 100 generations of human development to achieve. But it seems like a milepost on the evolutionary chain to integrate the third eye into mainstream cognition.

    Thats all I'm sayin. I don't even know if I would want to, or if I could, manage to keep it open permanently. As I said, the thought of that deeply scares me.
     
  13. MovedOn

    MovedOn Senior Member

    Messages:
    1,466
    Likes Received:
    4

    I keep thinking a new drug might arrive in 2012 that would be like LSD, but would essentially not wear off.

    Or maybe someone will just start sticking like 100 mg of LSD crystal in ecstacy pills and sell for em like $2 each. That would sure start something.
     
  14. Desos

    Desos Senior Member

    Messages:
    3,535
    Likes Received:
    324
    i don't think there is really much left for humans in the way of physical evolution. if you think about it we really don't live by a system of natural selection so much anymore. this almost completely prohibits any kind of physical evolution. i think our next step in evolution is a metaphysical, spiritual, development. we will learn to open our third eyes like you speak of, but it won't have any kind of physical manifestation, nor will it take many generations. this is the kind of thing that just sort of happens, like a blossoming flower. there have been societies that have already come pretty close to achieving this. the buddhists had a pretty good system. what we need, is a merge of society with immaculate truth and divinity.

    i don't think of it as a scary thing to have your third eye open permenantly either. why would you want to experience reality in any other way than its full-manifest glory? the only thing holding you back is your fear. but ironically, the fear only exists in the state of being held back. i sure don't experience things on the same level as most people at all anymore. reality bends at my will.
     
  15. itsallgood

    itsallgood Senior Member

    Messages:
    3,914
    Likes Received:
    0
    The return of the whatever is a funny title for proably a great book...But i dont think about the future that much anymore, iam more about whats going on right now.

    Whatever happens, i hope i live lol
     
  16. Mr.Writer

    Mr.Writer Senior Member

    Messages:
    14,286
    Likes Received:
    644
    and if you dont, its ok.
     
  17. Archemetis

    Archemetis Senior Member

    Messages:
    1,701
    Likes Received:
    0
    you know, theres a system build into our structure that opens the third eye when its ready to open. its all about our level of energy. if you want to open your third eye, start by feeding your navel point, the center. from there feed your heart. and then your head. it dosent do any good to shoot your head into the cosmos if you cant keep your feet on the ground. i think centering in our lower centers is increadibly important. in this way we become like a tree, rooted in the earth and the sky, connecting the two. embodying the balance. the balance between "heaven and earth" rests in our heart. that is our midpoint between the higher and lower centers.
     
  18. babyjay

    babyjay Senior Member

    Messages:
    1,524
    Likes Received:
    14
    i've never had the pleasure of experiencing an LSD trip, but i would like to.
    my only reserves, are that i've heard LSD has negative effects upon your body, and brain.

    however, i just googled it, and came across a website that doesn't mention any negative effects.. maybe i'm mistaken?

    it does mention, that when LSD is taken, you can experience flashbacks, within a few days after initially taking it, to over a year. if that's true, then it definately seems to me like your third eye would reopen, and close at the same times.:)
     
  19. Desos

    Desos Senior Member

    Messages:
    3,535
    Likes Received:
    324
    yea, except it is actually balanced around your heart. your heart is in the middle of all of your energy centers so it is directly connected to all of them. i can always tell when my energy centers are in alignment because it feels like a glistening ball of pure love exploding out of my chest.
     
  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice