Really Bad Experience Yesterday... Still Unsure What It Was...

Sunday night my sis n her bf was over.. having wicked time we drank some. I hada bout 5 beer. Nothing too crazy.

After they left I had a bud come by and he had a bit of blow.. did a few lines of that. I do it occasionally, but not a regular thing.

After he left, I had another day off work so was like fuck it, took two hits of acid and let it happen!

About 3-4 hours after that I started losing control of my arms/fingers...slowly though. At first I just thought it was part of the buzz
eventrually I was talking/typing on computer and watchin movies and slowly my arms started feeling like I couldn't do what I wanted. I'd think in my head "OK lets look up this or change the movie to this" and I'd just stare and try to do it but my arms were unable to move how I wanted!

Loss of motor skills...

I could walk ok, but then I went to bend down to change some cat litter, and I stood at it for 15 mins with scoop in one hand and bag in the other, but for the LIFE of my I could not get my arms or hands to properly move to do it. I was looking at it, thinking about it, wondering WTF is wrong I am in the rigth state of mind to do it and I don't feel high anymore (this was like 10 hours after the last thing I took)... so the buzz was gone but all that was left was the semi-paralyzed state. Mostly arms and fingers.

I COULD type but I just sorta slop my hands on the keyboard and to type something simple took so long even though I knew exactly what I had to say.


Anyone have any ideas? I know mixing alcohol and blow is not a great idea, but for the amount I never thought it would take an effect like that.

The acid is same batch i've done safely many times, and beer obviously i've had before.
Only different thing was the blow.. could it have been cut with something to give me these effects that lasted well beyond the life of the drug?

Was so close to going to hospital, but hours later I could feel gaining recontrol of parts... I eventually did fall asleep and now I am up and things seem back to normal.

But that was the scariest.. to somewhat see your body and mind not working together! I've had bummer acid trips in the past but I knew after hours it would wear off,, but this time the problem stayed after the effects were gone!

I also thought maybe it was carbon monoxide poisoning due to my furnace needing repair last week and maybe something wasn't proper.
I smelt gas a few etimes down there before It got fixed...but I'm sorta just thinking of all options now.


Just thought i'd post this to see if there's any imput. Needless to say I won't be mixing those things again ever. I'm usually never one to mix anyway, so this is quite extreme but never expected that.

I sorta moved like Michael J Fox....

 

You were trippin' man... :dizzy2:

 

Probably vasoconstriction and poor circulation. I'd chalk it up mostly to the blow and whatever adulterants may have been in it but acid can cause vasoconstriction as well, so it may have made the effect worse.

Vasoconstriction has also been noted frequently in Nbome chems too, which sometimes gets sold as acid. You sound like you were pretty sure of the quality of your acid but something I feel worth mentioning.

 

The Army calls that an SIW, Self Inflicted Wound.

 

oh yes....absolutely it wasn't the 2 hits of acid on top of cocaine and booze......probably just the carbon monoxide



lol

 

I figured the acid was the least dangerous thing out of the three honestly. It's def good, i've had same batch for a year and between me and my friends who've tried it there was no doubt it was good and clean.

And 15 hours after the the last consumption of anything, the lack of control was still there. I could almost feel it in my joints. It came on within 2-4 hours but to wear off to the point I knew it was almost over took about 10.

I slept from 10pm til this afternoon around 4pm.. and I feel extremely refreshed now and it's completely gone.. but although it's over now, It's made me want to get a physical and just all around checkup done. I've never had one yet and haven't really seen a doc in years.. getting close to 30 so this was sort of a realization to start regularly checking in on my health more than I can see obviously!

I felt pretty embarrased when I told my friend about it and she was more worried than I was.. I mean i've always been really responsible with drugs i've taken and would never mix.


Guess I'm not invincible after all

 

dude....no disrespect......this sounds like a druggie making bullshit excuses in order to deflect away from and legitimize the use of hard drugs


if I am wrong....so be it.....it is rare haha......but if it quacks like a duck and it looks like a duck


then its a duck



good luck

 

hard drugs like meth or heroin or crack you mean? Never touched either in my life, or seen em in person for that matter. I haven't smoked a cig in my life either..
I'm honest about what I do and those are about it other than mdma from time to time.
What would I be trying to cover up and what excuses am I making?

 

Coke...acid....I consider those hard drugs. I have been toking for over 40 years, and tried some things in my youth, so I'm no straight person.

 

coke is the hardest thing I would do!
I don't even drink alot, only occasionally if with family or the odd time I am at a bar.. but it's just never been a thing I enjoyed a lot.
But acid is quite safe in terms of od issues or it hurting you in some way. When i've taken it before on it's own, 8-10 hrs later it's pretty much fully gone!

 

i think GB may be right about the vasoconstriction. i have experienced that quite noticeably before on LSD (only once or twice though). i'm not sure if alcohol or cocaine can cause vasoconstriction, but they might have made it worse.

for me, my hands or feet started feeling tingly, sorta like they were asleep. but i wouldn't have said i was losing control of them

LSD can give me some WICKED jaw tension and cramping though...sometimes i smile too long on it.

 

But you do coke, which is a hard drug, and crack is simply the freebase form of coke. Cocaine destroys muscle tissue as it passes through your blood, and the heart is a muscle, so you're basically destroying part of your heart everytime you use cocaine. If you don't classify coke as a "hard drug", then you're either in denial or you're just stupid as fuck.

Also, anyone with any sense would consider alcohol to be a hard drug too, when used in excess. I wouldn't consider 5 beers to be excessive, on their own, but it can certainly be enough to cause some undesirable effects when mixed with stimulants, such as coke, or other depressants.

Anyway, LSD and coke are both vasoconstrictors, so a combination of the two CAN be dangerous, or at least cause some discomfort, and alcohol is a vasodilator, so I'm guessing your heart and nervous system were pretty confused, which could explain the symptoms you described.

 

It's hard to say coke is a "bad drug" or a "good drug" at all, it's just there. Many people need more and more, but there's nothing that would make me want to shove a needle in my arm.
Same with alcohol, that is just as dangerous or more so since it's praised by society and easy to get, and pushed onto people as a social thing.
What party do you ever go to where people aren't having any alcohol at all?
People will drink forever,
same with cigarettes..
but just because you do it don't make you stupid or dumb! You just need to be in control of it. I don't spend my last dollars on it. I make sure life comes first.
But I don't mind enjoying my life too.. I ain't ruining my life by recreational use of things.
Why would coke be any different? If you got a good head on your shoulders and are in control of life, then you can take most things responsibly.

Most people who abuse things have more problems going on than the drug use.

 

I never said "bad drug". No drug is inherently "bad". The misuse and abuse is what is bad. Coke is a hard drug, but that doesn't mean it can't be used responsibly. Still, regardless of how responsible a person is, it can cause serious damage to the body.

 

cocaine when taken with alcohol forms cocaethylene in the liver, which is an even more potent stimulant than cocaine. cocaethylene also lasts longer and iirc cocaine does cause vasoconstriction. I think alcohol is a vasodilator though.

one time I was on LSD and part of my forearm hurt and I looked at it and there was this bump a little bit bigger than. a bb under the skin where one of my veins was like it was bulging out in that one spot. that freaked me out and the. I moved my arm and it disappeared, idk if I was just trippin or I just had my arm in a weird position that cut off the the circulation for a second. it tripped me out tho cuz I thought something weird was happening to my veins and wondered if that could happen to the blood vessels in my brain.

never heard of anyone dying from a brain aneurism from doing acid tho.

 

Acid is certainly not a hard or dangerous drug, as long as it's real acid.
The scare tactics and propaganda of the 60s and 70s put a bad image of it into many people's heads, with no real evidence or proof.
Now meth, crack, heroin, even coke in many cases you can literally see what's dangerous about it. Also alcohol and cigs.
These will never have any good things come out of their use..
People who say acid is hard or dangerous don't know enough about it's history and current use in medicine.

 

what current use in medicine are you referring to?

 

www.maps.org is the main group I know that is putting on the studies and tests.
there are many more happening currently with the use of LSD and other psychedelics to help try helping people with PTSD, terminal illness, and other illness. Not so much for curing, but for coping and understanding.

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/magazine/acid-test-the-case-for-using-psychedelics-to-treat-ptsd-depression/2014/09/04/03c3c222-0e01-11e4-8c9a-923ecc0c7d23_story.html

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/06/lsd-anxiety-study-psychotherapy-_n_4906596.html