Reading on Lost Possessions

Hi I was wondering if I could get a reading on this.

My name----MPQ ----date of birth June 26 1960

If anything about this connects with any of you maybe you could respond---
My question regards personal possessions and my past.---Over the years I just started to wonder where some of my stuff,just things I had from growing up,went to.
My first move was a long time ago------when I was around 21 around 1979-80====I first moved out of my family home,when my Dad decided to sell it and move to smaller quarters.There was a major clean--out of the house.I just had the usual stuff,-----records,letters,photos.schoolwork,clothing,shoes,miscellaneous stuff ----like a little suitcase I had when I was a kid,school uniforms when I went to catholic school,stuff from Girl Scouts like uniforms and badges,little presents my Dad gave me when I was a kid,old high school photos and negatives from high school photography,a photo book I made myself containing portraits of Sisters, just little things here and there that I collected and were part of my life.I went away to college,and some things got scattered----there were a lot of letters that I wrote to friends,and they wrote to me,these disappeared.
One thing I wondered about was what happened to a whole wardrobe from that time,clothes I wore everyday===========would have still worn them into adulthood,but basically a whole wardrobe vanished.My brother Kevin had access to a storage unit that I had put some stuff in---wonder if he was involved.Or maybe my father,and sister Sheila.I would really like to have those clothes,things like my old Hawaiian shirts,clothes from the Original Banana Republic in Mill Valley, alot of them I am sure I could still be wearing today.I was wondering if you could tune in on them and track what happened to them.
I am hoping my sister may still have some things of mine at her house somewhere mixed in.Maybe they are tucked away and she hasn't come across them in awhile.Or maybe my brother Brian has some of my old things.


I also would like to locate some old photos from growing up-----I lost track of some old photo albums--so was going to ask some people.My question for you is-----"Who has old photos of me from growing up?"
I don't want to ask the wrong people so thought I would give some names and you could respond=====

Marcia L---use to babysit for her,she is a professional photographer,she took some portraits of me.

Suzan Richards---old college roomate.She always had a camera and took a lot of shots of us together in the dorms.Would love to have those.

Candace R.---went to Hawaii with her many years ago----she also was in high school photography with me and took many photos---on the Hawaii trip she took lots of pics of me and even had a slideshow when we got back---

Elaine E.---lived down the street from me when growing up and thought she must have a pic or 2.

Well those names should be a good start.-------I have been really focused on material possessions lately and would like to have more of the original things I started out with.It's just like---where did all my stuff go??? Does my sister still have some things,maybe some photos??????

Well I don't know if you would be inclined to help out with this.Some psychics are really good at locating material things.----If any of you are not able to do it, do you know any psychics who are good at tracking stuff like this?????? Thanks very much------MPQ

Someone asked me if I wanted these things for the memories they represent-----I want both if possible,the actual psychical items and the memories of what they represent.As I get older some things in my memory are a bit fuzzy and the actual thing itself just makes it more real.
I always wondered about people and their 'things'--it's interesting how people keep different things from their childhood and then other stuff gets lost along the way.I wonder if its possible to track any of that 'stuff'to a specific person and location.
Maybe what I need to do is find a psychic who specializes in lost objects,but I'm sure that there are many people that have this talent.
As far as the photos go,I only know the whereabouts of one of the people mentioned above,and she has not gotten back to me yet,hopefully she will.As far as my old college roommate goes,I have no idea where she is or how to find her.I don't know any of her friends,she doesn't live in the same town as when I knew her.I tried to do search on the computer,but she has a few possible spellings of her name,and it got confusing.I contacted a couple of people,but I had the wrong person.I contacted our college alumni association,but they lost track of her over the years.How else do you find someone?
I could have been doing one thing or another,attending a special event,or just hanging out with friends,when a photo could have taken.How can I remember all those times? A friend sent me some pictures taken at different times and places--one was at a friend's graduation.I don't remember the event at all,much less having my picture taken.If she had not sent it to me,I would have no awareness of it.There are also some from my high school graduation that I don't remember being taken.I am sure that there are many other photos of me from that day,but I certainly don't have them.
That's why I am asking a psychic,partially because I have a terrible memory for stuff like this.Doesn't anyone have the experience where lots of photos were taken at different times and places,but then it's hard to remember who exactly took the picture,or you forget about it entirely.
So I just thought there would be some nice psychic out there who could help me with this by just having my name and date of birth.I just used initials so if someone thinks they can help me and needs a full name along with other details/info just let me know.Or else maybe they can recommend someone who is good at this type of thing.Thanks!!

 

Hello?Anyone care to give it a try? Or maybe someone could recommend a good psychic who specializes in finding lost possessions---thanks!

 

Sorry, but my abilities are associated with the living and not objects like records and clothes etc. Maybe zengizmo can help ya. What do ya think zen?

 

I think you're very funny for asking me, windy. I'm not sure what my abilities are associated with, exactly - maybe hosting psychic parties in my brain...and maybe the odd clairvoyant vision. No inanimate objects, though. Hell, I can't even find a lot of my own stuff. Maybe tikoo will come along and spin his little wheel.

 

lol...I was thinking the same thing...psychic shmychic... can't even find me own shit

 

i feel Hodad should invest in life more soulfully . i read skeletal pathos ...
and cannot spin unto it .

 

Good point, tikoo. Hodad, the answer to the implied but unspoken question.

I have lost a whole lot of possessions that seemed important to me once. Some were thrown out by our helpers after a flood. Some were in a box that I set aside carefully so I could retrieve it later, and the box disappeared. Lots of stuff is probably in our basement, but randomly hidden under piles of junk that my wife accumulates over the years and never seems to have time to sift through.

I've come to realize that those items were lost for a reason. I need to learn to let go of things, because I have such a tendency to cling. Increasing interest in material things is deleterious to spiritual progress. That's the answer to your post.

 

This is far too tangible for a "psychic". If they were to say "this object is behind your sofa", you would look, find it wasn't there, and see they were wrong.

If, on the other hand, you asked "do I have any spirits following me at this time?" or any other such mystical and non-specific question, someone would dive right in.

 

You're quite right about this, Fingermouse. However I think you're insinuating that this observation is a sort of proof that psychic experience is invalid. As I've pointed out before during discussions in which you were at least partially engaged, the fact that psychic experiences and phenomena don't occur the way you believe they should does not mean that they are invalid.

I have had lots of what detailed examination tells me must be valid psychic experiences, however I have also experienced the fact that psychic knowlege regarding the whereabouts of specific objects has never been granted to me, therefore I don't attempt to respond to questions of this kind. I take what I see and try to find explanations for it, rather than forming theories based on my beliefs and then discarding observations that don't fall in line with those beliefs.

 

it's entirely possible to find a lost object .

the first question to be addressed is 'can it be found ?' . and then
there is another important , initial concern . 'why was It lost ?' sometimes
a person plays a sublimal trick on self for sake of resolving some issue
through time via lostness . issue, issue ... scuse me while i sneeze

then should a psychic choose to locate It ... it's a dandy bit of puzzle-solving . a perception of 'behind the couch' would come as a series of descriptive clues - such as 'not in view , within a dark space , relational tho not within nor below an essentially inactive human social inactive stinky hairy object loved by a dog ' .

so ...and with a floppy tongue , refer to your can of beer
as an entertainment cylinder . thassa the game show ,
mr. bud potato .

 

tikoo...don't take this the wrong way, but, I LOVE YOU!!

 

So where is this person's stuff?

 

Windy, don't take this the wrong way, but I love tikoo too.

 

Fingermouse, why is it that when I leave a post that reasonably challenges your anti-psychic viewpoint, you just ignore me? It wouldn't be that I'm getting too close to something you don't want to openly discuss, would it?

 

:smilielol5:

Sorry zen, but no.

Your post had no substance I felt I could respond to. Simple as that.

You didn't give me anything beside your personal feelings on the matter, which are not enough on their own to counter the observation that there is zero evidence for this stuff. We could talk all day about what our feelings are, but it would never give us any answers about things like whether or not people you've never met can tell you over the internet where some things you lost years ago are or not.

In a quest to gain intelligent insight through informed discussion, I regularly meet this block. Though I may choose to take an interest in your intuition and anecdotes in conversation sometimes, that does not mean that they are a factor equal to evidence or a lack thereof in determining whether a phenomenon is real or imagined.

You're an interesting person and I do sometimes enjoy reading your views, but the idea that when I don't respond I feel that my mine are threatened is totally absurd. If you truly knew how little credible backup "psychics" have, you'd know that.

 

Not all that long ago, I was running a psychic history thread, and you had fairly substantial input there. I was presenting stories of what I consider psychic experiences of mine, and inviting the logical and reasonable among us to try to poke holes in the validity of considering my related experiences to be psychic. Though you presented a number of arguments to my view of certain anecdotes being psychic, I don't believe you actually poked any convincing holes in any of them. And at least three of those anecdotes had corroborating witnesses, though admittedly not present in this forum to note their corroboration directly. If you had more doubts to cast, you neglected to cast them. Rather than face the issues head-on where they were presented, you chose to vacate the premises without stating any further arguments, and to continue preaching your "reasonable" view that there just is no such stinkin' thing as "psychic."

You don't consider those anecotes as "evidence," yet in a court of law two witnesses corroborating the same events would certainly constitute "evidence." I could see you having reservations about the psychic nature of those events, however considering the nature of the events and the corroborating witnesses, it's hard to understand what doubts you might have - especially since you failed to state them within that context - and your continued hardline stance against the existence of psychic phenomena seems not logical or reasonable at all, but simply unreasoned bias. I think what you're really saying is that you just don't believe in psychic phenomena, and no evidence or reasoning is going to convince you otherwise.

 

I have to say, I'm finding how closely you've monitored my thread activity a bit creepy.

In a court of law, people are discussing the actions of other people. Witnesses may say "Henry slapped Janet, hard, on her cheek, then left the room".

Witnesses will generally not say: "Henry didn't slap Janet. It was a floating, transluscent form of a man, who floated around the room afterwards before the ceiling opened up and a spaceship beamed him away."

In the case of the former, we know that is it entirely possible that Henry may have slapped Janet because we know that humans exist, humans sometimes slap eachother and Henry may have had a motive for doing so.

In the case of the latter, huge investigation would have the be carried out before a witness testemony could ever possibly constitute as evidence (it may also be sensible to consider that perhaps none of that stuff happened and it's more likely that the witness is either mad, deluded or experienced a hallucination). Firstly, it would need to be proven that ghosts exist. Then, that they have the power to float around and slap people. Also the fact that ceilings can be opened up by spaceships hovering above them. All this would take a considerable amount of time.

You see, if someone is claiming something which defies the known laws of physics or is based on a power we as of yet have no scientific knowledge about, it is up to them to prove their claim. This needs to happen before any of it can be taken as fact and in some cases even taken seriously. Saying "I experienced it!" over the internet really, to be honest, just plain isn't good enough. It's nowhere near good enough.

If someone on the internet were to tell me "my dog died yesterday", I can assume that, although the person may be lying and may not even have a dog, this is far more likely to be true than if someone were to say "psychics are real because I am one. I hear voices from spirits."

Although I do not doubt the level of your personal belief (just as I don't doubt that the "God Hates Fags" people really do think that God exists and wants to burn homosexuals) I am very much inclined to say that you are probably mistaken in them until I am presented with any real evidence. This is the natural position of the rational mind.

 

last week , compelled by court order , i met with a councilor for an evaluation . amidst alot of questions all of which i freely answered was this one : do you hallucinate , hear voices , read minds or otherwise experience psychic events ?

yes .

yes , what ?

all of that .

i see , um , so ....

no , it's not like i go walking down the street
trying to read everyone's thought .

she smiles .

 

I read almost everything that is written in the psychic forum, because this subject is one of my primary interests. And I certainly read every word that is written in my own threads. Your posts are particularly visible because of your consistent efforts to ridicule and oppose the views of people who believe in psychic phenomena, so for that reason I tend to remember your posts better than others.

I find it a bit creepy that you opened your note with a statement like this one. Are you attempting to discredit my points by an attack on my character? I would hope that's not your motivation, because that would be very creepy indeed...

You prize yourself on your logic and reasonableness, but your arguments are logically quite flawed, and exhibit the very bias you seek to disprove. Your reasoning is full of hidden, unstated assumptions that a good lawyer - or scientist - would never allow to stand without challenge.

Firstly you choose to discuss not the actual events I described in my thread, but rather a hypothetical event that seems especially chosen so as to seem ridiculous, and by showing it's ridiculous, thus proving my own anecdotes must also be ridiculous. This type of reasoning is specious, and is called the "Straw Man Fallacy." However I'll grant you that using a silly hypothetical example is probably easier than it would have been to challenge my actual examples - which again, as I mentioned, you failed to thoroughly do when the opportunity presented itself.

Secondly, your whole argument is predicated on the idea that psychic phenomena don't exist, therefore we can't believe any eye-witness accounts that might seem to indicate otherwise, until such time as psychic phenomena are proven to exist. This is putting the cart before the horse. If the purpose of the trial is to show the likelihood or at least possibility of a psychic event, we simply need to establish that certain events were witnessed. We can't go throwing out evidence just because we don't believe such things can happen. This is a blatant application of personal bias in your reasoning, and clearly shows the filter you use in evaluating evidence.

You show this same reasoning flaw in your application of science to this subject, and display a clear misunderstanding of the scientific method. You said, "You see, if someone is claiming something which defies the known laws of physics or is based on a power we as of yet have no scientific knowledge about, it is up to them to prove their claim." Again, this puts the cart before the horse. The known laws of physics were discovered by examining evidence, and then looking for an explanation or description of the phenomena. You're saying that we first need to know that psychic phenomena exist before we can accept any evidence that seems to point to their existence. Based on that methodology, guess what: We will never prove their existence! QED, Fingermouse? The conclusion dictates the evidence?

And again you conclude with an example that is different from the ones I was using to make my points in my thread. Yes, I talk about "hearing" spirits. However I was not offering those experiences as evidence, because I know perfectly well that I have no evidence to offer that shows I really do hear spirits in my head. The stories I was offering as evidence came before my talk about spirits, and you left the scene without leaving behind any convincing arguments against the validity of my stories as examples of psychic phenomena.

You had the opportunity in my thread in question to submit your arguments, and you failed to do so convincingly. Furthermore I have shown here that your thinking is clearly not as rational as you would have us believe - and that you might possibly have a tendency to indulge in character attacks in order to give your arguments more emotional force. Therefore it is you, Fingermouse, not I, who is the one truly showing the bias of a poorly reasoned system of personal belief.

 

It would seem that it is you people who feel threatened, by me. As all I have done is put your beliefs into the appropriate context of what we know is true, it appears that this is an over-active defense mechanism on your part. You have nothing to defend against except critical thinking, skepticism and logic, and when they put you on edge, it's time to re-evalute your stance on a matter.

When I put as much effort into transactions as I do on here, it is always for the cause of discussion on an adult level and with the hope of creating or participating in meaningful debate which can provide insight. While I have fun with my posts sometimes (when faced with the persistently absurd, this is a natural reaction) it is not my purpose simply to belittle or spread around the kind of tittle tattle we see above. It seems you have assumed things about my purpose based on the fact that my views regularly cast yours into doubt:

When your beliefs face "opposition" or doubts from others, this is an opportunity for you to explore, not a threat or a fault on that person's part. The wise take up this challenge with dignity and gratitude.

As it happens, I do not oppose you. I wouldn't say that psychic phenomena definitely do not exist any more than I would say there definitely is not a god or there definitely aren't invisible fairies who are made of invisible wooden spoons.

I could just as easily have used your "examples". It shows just how far your belief has clouded your judgement that you cannot see that one unproven supernatural phenomenon is just as invalid as evidence as another. Very obviously, no lawyer would accept "Henry didn't do it, my spirit guide told me" or even "He didn't do it. I just know it!" either. When someone's entire claim rests on a phenomenon which is unproven, it becomes invalid as evidence in itself.

See above. As a rational person I can see that there is a small chance that psychic phenomena do exist, but I have no reason to believe in them. There is an infinite number of things which may exist, unknown to us. We have to work with what we do know and use that as a basis or we wouldn't get anywhere and conversation would descend into the absurd.

You seem to be saying that something shouldn’t be dismissed outright, if it has enough significance to put it into question, without first going through testing. I agree completely. It also cannot be stated as fact or rationally believed in until it has been run through these filters. No scientist has ever said "I've discovered something! You must now believe in it!" without providing the necessary evidence.

The rigorous tests which must be run before something can be seen as fact are there for a good reason. They are carried out to ensure there was no bias, no mental delusion in the subjects, no other possible explanations for their experiences. As it happens, these tests have been carried out in regard to the most widely reported phenomena such as psychic experiences, telepathy, astrology and ghosts etc, and the findings reveal no evidence for them as of yet. In fact the subjects performed so poorly that it is rationally far more likely that these things do not exist beyond the realm of superstition.

Some human observations are worth looking into as they prove to reveal new physical laws. It stands to reason that most, however, turn out to be coincidence or superstitious instincts.

Considering the billions of people on this planet and the vast number of activities, dreams, thoughts etc happening to us all every day, have you ever considered how odd it would be if no events matched our hunches? This is why when people say "my great aunt lily saw a ghost" I am underwhelmed and unimpressed. Not only is this a second-hand anecdote, it also stands to reason that someone will have had a misfire in the brain at that point in time on this planet. I have had them myself. I have "seen" a floating version of myself heading my way. But guess what...it was most probably an illusion from tiredness, stress, or some other brain activity.

Here you seem to agree that feelings and anecdotes do not stand as evidence.

While I admire your self-confidence in this concluding paragraph, you make those assumptions again. I do not have any "personal beliefs" beyond what can be proven, and I will be sticking around here and responding with a healthy amount of criticism and skepticism.