I wanted to know what people thought about the idea of "asking for it." Personally, I think there is no such thing as "asking for it" but when women or men dress in an erotic way, doing irresponsoible things (like leaving your drink unattened for some time, comming back and drinking it), go to parties with people they don't know and talk to perverted strangers, drink and get high a lot around strangers, and things like that it's just like eating candy infront of a dieter's face. Not to say that people mean to do these things, I just think putting yourself "on the table" and defenseless infront of a person who would take advantage of your situation and cannot help themself or do not have the mental cabability to figure what they do is wrong is an unwise choice.
Rape is a subject that really upsets me so I'm not gonna discuss it much but there is no such thing as "asking for it" and anyways who says there is is a complete jackass and I'd like to......
Wait, A man or Woman can't dress "reveling" but it's OK for someone to slip something in someones drink or to force sex on someone?? HUH? What the F**k kind of logic is that. What about the right for someone to dress the way they want and not have someone do something ILLEGAL to them!
I didn't say that! I said that there is no such thing as asking for it but ity is also unwise to go into an unfamilar place, where you don't know the people, alone, dressed in a manor that reviels a little more skin than needed. I know you are smart enoughto know what I mean and I don't like those people that try to twist words and make another person look like they're saying something shallow or ignorant. If you don't know how to be fair I don't want you posting here, although it's your right.
It's not a matter of "asking for it", it a matter of using your brains. Most men are very sex-driven creatures... you mix that with alcohol, and the fact that they are probably complete idiots and you get a possible rape scenario. So yes, use your brains... if you go to a party in which you don't know anyone... don't get too trashed. It's rather simple.
I'm not twisting your words I am mearly voicing my opinions on the whole "They asked for it" statment.
The one thing I disagree strongly with is the "it's like eating candy in front of a dieter" statement. You should be able to go where you want, drink when you're out without fear of someone slipping something in your drink or wear whatever you want... it shouldn't have to be a person's problem that some other person has huge issues. Of course it's wise as a female to watch your drink when you're out and to just generally be cautious... it's sad but true that you do need to look out for yourself because there are sick, sick fucks in the world.
I was just saying that for a person that is mentally unable to make the connection that what he/ she is doing is wrong and cannot resist something like that it is just as if they were being tempted in their mind.
. The 1st thing I made clear when I posted was that there is no "asking for it." I asked on people's opinion as to whether or not they thought there was any "asking for it." Instead of answering that you'd rather nit pick at what I say to find all of the things you disagree on? That's not the point of topic.
That was part of a scenario in which one finds his or her self in an unfamilar place with no one that they know (perhas, as I provided, a party) doing things (heavy drugs or alcohol) that would render them unable to ensure no one can take advantage of them, If you would have quoted my whole scenario instead of taking one sentence away from it you would of seen that I said nothing about people not being able to dress the way they want, unless, they find themself in that dangarious scenario.
+ That has nothing to do with my ability to handle this thread or present infomation, provided in a scenaro to give examples and state a question for people in a topic of my choice. The people whot turn to age or other things, instead of answering the question or countering a hash statement with evidence are often the people who do not understand. Now I will ask you, do you need help understanding the question? I'm trying to be kind. If you don't then why are you almost "attacking" my post and pointing to my age, proving nothing, wasting my time, and not answering the question?
Rape is never the victim's fault, but certain measures can be taken to protect oneself. In all honesty if I drink and pass out and get my wallet stolen, it's not my fault, but I made myself vulnerable. A lot of girls need to learn to exercise more caution, and act more responsibly in those kinds of situations.
If you disagree with her you should engage in healthy debate, not resorting to dismissal based on age discrimination. What are you thinking posting such ridiculous condescending drivel?? You should be ashamed of yourself, just because you are older than her does not mean you posess more wisdom. In my experience people who use outlandish nonsensical responses like this to counter a point are oft times too close minded to see the forest for the trees, open your mind and give some creedence to those younger, you just may learn something.
I said that because she was not getting the point of my post. I was simply saying when will people start doing more to prevent the "rapist" in the first place insted of living in fear. Someone leaves a drink unatended + someone slipping something = rape and it will boil down to "Why didn't that person be more carful. in essence it will ultimetly be their (the victim's falt) to a point. I understood when the original post was about. I just didn't agree!
That's okay... I mostly don't agree either. I get tired of people putting the blame on the victim even when they don't mean to (not saying her but some people do this).
I never said that people wanted to live in fear, I just said that there are so instances you want to avoid because that can put you in a bad situation. It's just like avoiding a dark back ally, not compromising the enjoyment of your life, just keweping safe. Now will someone please answer my question. I asked how you feel about the thought of "asking for it" and if you feel as if there is any such thing.
