Finally quitting two years of opiate use. Today is my last time taking OC. I already have a bad psychological addiction but the physical isn't really there yet. Probably because I have never gone longer than three weeks straight on pills. Figured I should get out now while im ahead. Starting prozac too for anxiety/depression. Hope it goes well. Any tips on how to beat the constant mental desire for opiates?
good luck. i would suggest just not being around anyone that your friends with that are constantly doing opiates. just seeing them will remind of you of it.
I dont know if youre doing cold turkey, but Ive heard that kratom is good for making the transition between opiates and sobriety.
i dont think i clarified enough. i wont get bad physical wd's that bad because i take them 2-3 weeks then take a 1 to 2 week break. The reason being i run out from my hookup so I have to wait. Dont get me wrong I know i will get physical wd's but the phsycological aspect is worse. I haven't actually been taking opiates everyday for 2 yrs. ive just done like a huge binge once a month. Most of the month almost though lol.
trojanman22-I do agree with you about the mental part being the wosrt. Every time I kick Herion I always look about how much I am going to hate the physical part but I always end up getting threw it even though I hate even thinking about being dope sick, But for me the reason I always go back is the mental addiction. I will set around thinking about dope and about getting high and always being bored and having time on my hands is my worst enemy when I was trying to get clean. I would call my friends up who I know who use and see whats going on with every one and thats my first mistake I would have them pick me up and I know that in no time that needle was going back into my arm or that dollar bill was rolled up and ready to go. As soon as they picked me up we were on are way to the dope spot.The other thing that would fuck me over so much is after I got clean and was going good is I would fool myself into thinking I can still do other drugs and party like blowing lines of coke,going out and getting drunk etc ,Well as soon as the coke was over or I got drunk thats was it I was on my way going to get a bag of Herion in the city or looking for OC's. It never fails with me thats why I had to gvie all drugs for so long. The physical part of opiates is pure hell but it is 1% of the addiction, a shitty 1% but none the least.The mental part of addiction on the other hand is about 99% of it and its so overlooked, If you can get over the mental part and occupy your mind and your time you have such a better chance of staying clean. Don't anyone fool themself into thinking the physical part is the hardest. 9/10 when people go back to using its becasue of the mental addiction they have to opiates !!!!!!
I don't like this. Sure it might help with personal addiction in the short term, but too many people bail on their friends, and often go back to the drug anyway. I say if you're not strong enough not to do it when your friends are around, you're not strong enough to avoid doing when you're on your own. It's not hard to make it clear that you have no intention of getting high and if you're firm enough with yourself in the beginning, you hold yourself more accountable to stay true to your word, since it's more public. I don't know why people can't be moderate with opiates. A black-and-white approach is going to rule you one way or another, i.e. either you got to have it all the time, or you have to swear it off completely. Why frustrate yourself by treating all the good times you had as part of some polar sub-world, yet continue to yearn for them, perpetuating a cyclical state of ambivalence? Nothing in the world is as rewarding to the brain as drugs. Despite what people say, there's no substitute. THere's worthy distractions, but there's always the ultimate pedestal in the back of the mind. In my case, you can take the stoner out of the party but you can't take the party out of the stoner. So I say do opiates for a day, and put three clean days in before the next opiate-day. It's how I do it, and I've never felt addicted, or like I was compomising my discipline, cuz I just told myself that I would get a reward after so many days of patience. You get used to it, and the drug becomes something beneficial, If you don't treat it like an escape, but rather a reward to enhance your enjoyment of your own life. You'll find that you're more creative and productive, because a basic urge is being met, and your still maintaining your life the way you want it.
The reward system might work for you but for the ones who are addicted that reward system will get fucked over pretty fast and go right out the window and the person will start using every day again. If one is addicted to opiates its almost 99.9% unlikely they will ever be able to use them again without abusing them sooner or later. Thats goes with any drug that one is addictd to, The saying with addicts is one is not enuff and and a thousand is never to many. Addicts don't think like normal people who do drugs and can to them recreationally. we are creaturs who live for the moument and don't care about the consequences of are actions becasue of drugs. A drug addcit will always use if they try quitting and then go back around and hang out with there frinds who are using its almost 100% certain. For you burnabowl it might not be hard but for people who a addicted to opiates and other drugs it most certanily is.
dude if your addicted to opiates and your trying to get clean, then go hang out with all your buddies while there blowing shit around you and nodding out, it's gonna make it 100x harder to not relapse. you have a better chance staying off of it by not surrounding yourself by the drug. maybe once all your withdrawals are over with, and your feeling good mentally and physically you can be around it without wanting it, but even then its risky.
your so dam right Guitar if a person is trying to get clean and get there shit together and they go back to hanging out with the people they use to use with its pretty much ceratin they will be using again in no time. So for people trying to give the shit up it might be hard but if you want to stay off the shit you got to give up the people you use to use with even if some of them were your good frinds.
I suppose if you feel that your drug habit has completely demolished your willpower, it would be the right thing to take a sabbatical from your friends. It kinda depends on whether they really are your friends or not. If they are, take a break, but don't make it seem like you suddenly feel that your normal activities are beneath you, but rather you feel like you're beneath them; meaning that you can't keep up with your own life by using. I think it's better to not burn any bridges; your friends tend to understand you better than even family members. You can always make new friends, but it will be perpetuating a cycle that precludes you from making any long-term friends, and those are the ones that are valuable.
I can certianly tell you have plently of experiance. I like what you said and your process. I went to rehab and was sober for over 100 day and now I do what I want when I want. I budget my money and my drug use. I keep it limited to the point where I won't feel the need to do drugs everyday. If you can't acctually control yourself then I suggest stopping for a while and starting at the bottom of the drugs for a while. Like just smoke pot every now and again. Thata what I did and now iv done plently of other drugs sence I moved out of my parents house and I have no trouble controlling myself. And I've ben labled a drug addict
