Quick question for you homos

Discussion in 'Lesbian, Gay, Bi, Trans, etc.' started by DarkLunacy, Apr 12, 2006.

  1. DarkLunacy

    DarkLunacy Senior Member

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    And please lets not get off on the wrong foot. I dont have a problem with you gay people and I'll call you every slang name I can think of, and when I do so its not in a derogitory sense so if you see me posting about gays and I use the word fag, just chill... Its how my gay friends taught me to talk about them lol. Ok to the question:

    My friend keeps asking me to have sex with him. I dont mind it too much cause back in the day it was like a joke. And you know how when a running gag loses its zing you stop doing it... That happened and then recently when I'm talking to him he's seemingly revived the joke. The catch is he only does it when he's really really drunk and I can't tell if he's serious or if he's kidding. I guess what I'm asking is have you ever asked a straight person for sex just to fuck with their head?
     
  2. ihmurria

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    "you homos" "you gay people" "fags"... look, the forums ahve this fun edit button where you can at least make your speech less offensive on here

    He's screwing with your head, because you behave as though you are afraid of or intimidated by folks who prefer their own gender
     
  3. DarkLunacy

    DarkLunacy Senior Member

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    OK now whos making generalizations. Listen please lets not argue over the symantics of it, as it ties into my personal beliefs about taking power away from derogitory words. Saying that all gay people hate those words is a generalization and simply untrue. All my gay friends use them, and when they get drunk, they use them a lot more. I'm not intimidated by gay people (Or is that too offensive? Should I use the scientific word homosexual?) at all. This dude has been my friend for about 4 years now. And what the fucks wrong with saying you gay people. I'm refering to you gay people on hip forums. Jesus its not like I'm calling you inhuman. Some people just look for an argument ¬¬()... I'm just not sure if he's flirting or joking at this point... Whenever he's sober he swears up and down he's kidding but as soon as he's had a few drinks, bam! "Come on Will, I'm still tight and I give good head!" "DUDE!" He also hit on my best friend a lot... Of course there was that one time Travis got drunk and kinda flirted back... But we're not supposed to talk about that anymore lol
     
  4. SageDreamer

    SageDreamer Senior Member

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    Some gay people object to the word "fag" and some don't. The safe thing to do is not to assume anything. I teach my nongay friends not to use the word "fag."

    If your friend keeps joking about having sex with you and keeps joking about it, it's hard not to think there's more to it than that.
     
  5. DarkLunacy

    DarkLunacy Senior Member

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    Thank you Sage... I can understand that but my personal philosophy is that those words can hurt so long as we let them. So rather than using the word as a derogatory insulting term I use it as a synonym... Now granted its difficult to do that without making people uncomfortable, so I dont use it as much... I usually stick to queer and homo... I just cant be PC and fluff everything for everybody =\
    I think we all need to make active change to make a word mean something else than to try and avoid certain words all together. Thanks for a more open minded view on my disclaimer. See now I know how you two feel about it and I'll try to choose more carefully when I speak.
     
  6. KewlDewd66

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    Yup, you got it right, if the dude is hittin on breeders and is not givin in after a while, he is hittin on you big time...

    KD
     
  7. DarkLunacy

    DarkLunacy Senior Member

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    Maybe he'll get lucky and I'll go through another bi phase, only it wont last 14 seconds before I gross myself out lol
     
  8. The_Warden

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    Hello There,
    First things first.. Dont catergorize us.. We are hereby no different to yourself... Calling gay members of the public "fags" may be accepted in your area but a fag in my area is a cigarette full of chemicals and nicotine and to be honest being gay doesnt have neither of those in it.. Secondly.. Your friend may be touchy feely but if you dont keep your guard up and enforce that No means No he will take advantage of it and you will face what he wants.. If you keep going on with a dead joke your find that he will go along and when your drunk anything seems acceptable and as you are probably aware it could lead to him committing an offense on yourself..
    The thing i will recommend however is that Yourself is to be put first here and you sound like your not wanting to get into any sexual activity with this guy.. So now is the time to tell him to stop or risk loosing a friendship.. If you dont he could get worse just dont flame it up by trying it back when his pissed.. If his sober.. Thats different his aware of whats going on

    Regards

    The_Warden
     
  9. KewlDewd66

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    The breeder here does not seem to be having a problem with saying NO, when he wants to do so... The issue at hand is much more of how to:

    go through yet another bi phase without creating impression that he might actually be more inlcined towards being a fag dude than breeder one...

    KD
     
  10. mushie18

    mushie18 Intergalactic

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    I think your friend may want to act out on what he's saying but who knows... I would never say anything of that nature to any of my straight guy friends. It just creates unneccesary awkwardness.

    Who knows, maybe he thinks he has a chance with you...?
     
  11. Last Stand

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    i think hes just a Big fag .
     
  12. The_Warden

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    Or a closet queen wanting to find advice before he comes out??

    Regards

    The_warden
     
  13. DarkLunacy

    DarkLunacy Senior Member

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    Jesus fucking christ I wasnt aware that homesexuallity mean you get all the humor fucked out of you. Listen this isnt directed to those of you kind enough to offer me advice. But where the fuck do you get your self righteous sense of entitlment?
    Ok lemme get this straight now. You want to be treated the same as everyone else correct... But want people to curve their language so its more pleasent to you.... That I dont get. Seriouslly... Explain that to me. And furthermore, I'm in the US whilst your over en Europe where a fag is a cigarette. Well here we call cigarettes Squares. Just because you speak a language differently does not mean other people should have to tailor THEIR speech patterns to accomidate you. I would expect no different treatment myself. I dont need you to change your speech because I can read and insta translate to a personal understanding. And the only catagorizing I'm making is saying that Homosexuals are gay. Did I bring into play any stereotypes? Did I ever use the words "All queers" or anything similar. Ok it looks like I'm going to have to break it down every time I reference gays. Heres we go
    Topic: "...for all you homos" I guess I should have added the words 'On hipforums' because some people obviouslly cant recognize that as just an assosiation to a paticular group. Its the same thing as saying "all you musicians" or "All you stoners"
    BREATHE!
    Now look at the disclaimer... I'm sure you read it as ignorant swill right? Well I'm just trying to avoid a huge fight by letting you know I'm prone to saying words like, Fag, queer, homo, etc. Just specifying I dont mean it offensivly if it crops into my statments. For clarity. All's it would take is saying something like SageDreamer said. He let it be known that he doesn't like that word. When I read that it says to me, "Ok he would apreciate it if I didnt use the word around him"
    Then you look at what Ihmurria says:
    Excuse me... How do you know that? Do you have any idea what kind of people I hang out with? Do you have any idea how often me and Joe (the foremention gay friend whose hitting on me) have hung out. I've known him for 4 years, and he and I have had a lot of fun drinking with other mutual friends and hanging out at dinners at 4 in the morning. But because you read a single post you figured you had me to the tee didn't you? Now who'se genrealizing people? Now look I want to thank you guys for your advice nonetheless but please dont label me as ignorant because I'm not. Where I live we do things differently and all's I ask is that we can carry on meaningful conversations with empathy and curteousy (Sp).
    KewlDude I'm not too sure what your talking about but lemme esplain myself. When I was like 15 or 16 I decided to aproach myself with the possibility of being gay. This is about how that conversation in my head went. "Well... Nope I still like chicks so maybe I could be bi........ Uhg, nope I'm not bi"
    And so I continued forth living a life of the opposite sex. I dont like gays, I dont hate gays, I'm impartial to their sexuallity. Now the person as an individual is a different story.
    Again thanks for the advice it looks like I'm gonna need to talk to him about this.
     
  14. The_Warden

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    Well if you want respect from us calling us "Fags" to satisy your local "talk" isnt the way to earn it.. You wouldnt like it if we all decided to call you a rug muncher, breeders etc etc.. I am asking politely that you refer to us people as people.. Not a phrase from a Book.. If your friend hits on you and you hit back with him messing around or not it could go one step serious and before long it could spirual out.. Be careful mate

    Regards

    The_Warden

    P.S Gay men dont usually hit on straight lads for one reason - It could get nasty.. Also gay men are good at telling if another guy is gay
     
  15. Last Stand

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    P.S Gay men dont usually hit on straight lads for one reason - It could get nasty.. Also gay men are good at telling if another guy is gay
     
  16. Last Stand

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    But on some ocassions i been known .......well never mind
     
  17. Closet Kid

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    wow you guys are dumbasses quit bitching you don't see me crying for equal rights. God grow up
     
  18. txbarefooter

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    Hey Dark,

    I don't take offense to the terms... they are just words.

    your friend could just be fucking with your mind, like when my straight friends and I go out for lunch or something and I grab the check they would would say "you suck" then I'll say "why yes I do".. with a good laugh and eyebrow raises. Jay will look at me funny, shake his head and say "fag" and then laugh.

    Would I ? I doubt it cuz I'd hate to fuckup the friendship... then again if we were both really stoned and horned up.. maybe.

    Maybe next time your friend says it, just say something like "I doubt you could handle me " said with a laugh.
     
  19. KewlDewd66

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    A quick explanation from my prospective.

    It looks like to me that your friend is hittin' on you. It also looks like to me that you have recognized this. Equally so, I think that you are not sure about what you really want to do. (That's why you rightly ask your question here.) You have no problem in saying, 'Nope dude, thanks, I ain't homo, bi, anything and I only let chicks suck on my dick. Period.

    Yet this is not exactly what you want to say, coz you are still considering getting into a possible bi-spell and giving it a tryout.

    So, it is your dick, thus your call, too. Your gay buddy there looks like more than willing to give you a free ride. You have simply got to make up your mind and either stop it dead in its tracks or go for a tryout.

    Lots of guys are fearful that any kinda sexual encounter may ruin your friendship. If you are real friends, a little side trip into your bi-side won't kill your friendship. If you are not real friends, any rainy day may dissolve your 'friendship' anyway.

    As for the language debate: You have started the thread by using the words like homos and fags, etc. You are obvioulsy having no objection to being called a breeder, pussy-eater or anything else that comes along. Fine. Guys who are into PC and generally faint-hearted for this kind of language are most kindly asked to attend to other threads as this one contains language not suitable for everyone.

    Have fun,

    KD
     
  20. Last Stand

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    or Pussy whip.
     

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