All right because I don't want to take over anyone's thread, and I figure it's about time I ask the questions I have. I have a nice amount of DMT that is very very high quality (15G +) and have tried it maybe 5 - 6 times now. However every time I try it's very.. suffocating for lack of a better word. My body begins to become massively heavy and I feel like I must focus on my breathing or I wont breathe. Usually then my vision goes black, I see some colors for maybe 4 minutes that are very pretty but very.. blurry and hard to see, then I usually come back noticing a lot of patters on my walls and such for about 10 minutes then it fades. I'm beginning to have a hard time wanting to do it again because what I have experienced has been not over enjoyable. But I know I'm just missing something doing something wrong, I feel close to something amazing. So I will post how I have been doing and maybe you guys can tell me what you would suggest. I have been taking my pipe (willie wanka can be seen in the show your piece forum), putting some bud in the bottom the covering the top of that with a thin layer of white crystal.On my first hit I get the flame near the bud and pull rather vaporous smoke, my next 2 - 4 hits are hitting the bud and dmt on top and just holding it for 15 second releasing taking a deep breathe and taking another hit. Now I have my pipe, a bubbler, and a bong, and I may not be using enough on the top. What are your suggestions?
increase dose. Btw Dmt doesn't last long and its not terribly pleasant for many. The body load doesn't get any easier with a higher dose but visually it does get pretty amazing.
Where is your information that it does not last long, from what I have read it can be kept in an airtight container for around 6 - 19 months without a decrease in potency. I'm not questioning just trying to enlighten myself. And I appreciate your thought you have shared on the subject.
ya more dmt on the pipe will help but imo the best way to breakthrough is to lay down after the last toke, hold it in as long as you can and close your eyes until you know to open them. sometimes you do have to remember to breathe but imo those are some of the most awe inspiring experiences.
Hello Friend, A few thoughts from an old fart: DMT has a VERY HEAVY body load. That means your limbs are likely to feel extremely heavy or perhaps even paralyzed during the main part of the experience. Also, DMT seems to stimulate/challenge the human amygdala in a fundamental manner. What this means to me: Fear comes with the territory, almost every damned time, if you're doing it right. DMT is a teacher molecule as well as a spirit molecule and it has taught me SO MUCH about fear, my fear, what generates it and how to deal with it. Thanks to DMT i no longer have an insect phobia. So, what to do? It's hard i know. Sometimes a break helps. Sometimes increasing dose to completely blow you out of your body helps, but to be completely honest that often results in the convincing feeling that one has completely quit breathing, has no heartbeat and/or may be dead. Somehow, learning to face and deal with the fear seems to be the key, combined with the ultimate act of mental surrender/acceptance. Do not launch frivolously. Try to mentally prepare - literally be ready for anything, be ready to accept and surrender do whatever happens, including your own "death." You see, it is just your ego/self that is dying/resisting. The DMT is NOT hurting your body, it is NOT shutting down your breathing. Actually, what's happening is your body/mind enter a deep drug trance and everything you perceive becomes hallucinatory. You frequently lose touch with/become dissociated from your body. HOW TO PROVE THE ABOVE: Have a sitter watch you very carefully, monitoring your breathing throughout your next experience. Once you return to baseline, discuss what your different (yours & the sitter) impressions were of what happened to your body. Once you are firmly in hyperspace, the best i can recommend is trust/faith and surrender. TRUST in your wetware (your body/brain) to bring you back, to end the trip, to return your breathing before anything truly bad happens. TRUST in the DMT not to harm you but to be a very firm teacher. Surrender to whatever happens. Just surrender to it. It is so easy. It is so hard. It is the ultimate act and it is not really surrender. ABDOMINAL BREATHING: Can be very helpful and can help to slow the heartbeat and introduce calm into a panicing mind. Just breathe from your belly. If you see/feel your belly moving as you breathe, you have achieved abdominal breathing. A good 3-5 abdominal breaths can help quite a bit. ANOTHER IDEA: Start using and/or pre-dosing with some sort of MAOI. If you can achieve complete inhibition, you should be able to launch in a semi-euphoric state with the fear radically damped down. Makes the trip last a bit longer too. NEXT ISSUE: Marijuana is hot/harsh smoke. DMT is difficult to vaporize correctly, but when you do it is cool vapor. DMT smoke is harsh and indicates BURNED DMT. In my limited experience, this yields horrible trips. What's really going to help: The glass vaporgenie (you can google this) and a changa mixture that includes gentle, lung helpful, tasty herbs, such as mullein, peppermint, lavender, blue lotus, etc. If you want links or teks on this PM me. So easy. So much easier than pulling DMT itself. The vaporgenie is a special pipe with a ceramic filter that damps down the heat from your flame to the exact temp to vaporize the spice. All of a sudden DMT does NOT taste like burned plastic. Why? Because you aren't burning it! Trust me, if the molecule has a spirit itself, it really appreciates and rewards this act. Changa is an enhanced herb mixture with a heavy DMT component. FINAL THOUGHTS: Don't give up, but don't be afraid to take your time. Talk, read, meditate, pray, whatever you do to seek clarity. Breathe, breathe, breathe and tell yourself over and over and over (like a mantra) "I can surrender to DMT, I can surrender to DMT, I CAN surrender to DMT, i CAN SURRENDER to DMT. i WILL SURRENDER to DMT." Use other entheogens. In my limited experience, DMT has a very clear and very loud call (Sometimes i hear it every single day, other times i take as much as 2 days to 10 weeks off.). Wait until you feel the pull/call and try to prepare fully every single time. Good luck and blessings. There is a very important and deep reason they call this "the work." You are on the path and doing the work. Peace & Love, Spicey Cat Brrrrrp!
That's what I was leaning toward, but wanted to make sure. Not the best idea IMO, but then again.... I might have to try it once.
Thank you so much everyone, esp Spicey Cat that was a real thought turner. I'm really going to have to think about what you said about learning to accept and deal with my fear. I really really appreciate your help everyone. You have all been great : )
Yeah Spicy Cat, that is great advice, I will use the method when taking on any drug trip. Cheers! http://www.milliondollarcompany.com.au
