question for the Christian haters

Discussion in 'Christianity' started by MollyBloom, Aug 17, 2005.

  1. Libertine

    Libertine Guru of Hedonopia

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    Oh, I agree. But, religion is the "belief" that is the origin.

    We can do without religion, but we can't do without people.
     
  2. mynameiskc

    mynameiskc way to go noogs!

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    is there a typo in your first line? because my brain felt like it just rammed into a steaming pile of...pudding.
     
  3. Libertine

    Libertine Guru of Hedonopia

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    No, the origin begins in a person, but it is the belief (in various things) that forms the religion...
     
  4. Oz!

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    indeed.

    religion, is just a handy dandy invention for man to justify his own actions......of course it's not the only reason ....but prolly the most used
     
  5. mynameiskc

    mynameiskc way to go noogs!

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    yeah, what oz said. the problem lies in the person. since the person is a fuck up, what they invent to justify themselves isn't the source of what makes them fucked up. or some shit like that.
     
  6. FeelinGroovy

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    Are you guys saying that non-Christians (like yourselves) do not justify thier own actions or feel no need to justify them in any way? Or if non-Christians do somehow justify their actions what do they use for a basis of justification?
     
  7. BraveSirRubin

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    Then millions (even billions) of people are fuck-ups because they apply the same invention for self-justification to thier lives?
     
  8. BraveSirRubin

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    Reason, code of laws inscripted by the country of residence, etc. The difference is that Christianity justifies any action of anger without consequences after the certain person goes to confession.
     
  9. Oz!

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    they may use a different religion, an ideology, an ethical code or their own common sense :)
     
  10. Oz!

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    It depends wot you class as a fuck-up
     
  11. Libertine

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    Unbelief is considered a sin, but I don't consider that fucking up.
     
  12. FeelinGroovy

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    First, I wouldn't call that "Justification". I would call that forgiveness. And, also you are referring to a specific demonation of Christianity when you refer to confession, namely Catholicism . I am a Christian, but I am no fan of Catholicism as I see it commonly "followed/practiced" in our society. To me, some of the most seemingly hipocritical "Christians" I've known as a whole have been Catholics. I do not agree with many of their rationalizations, and practices as a Church. It can be very different from protestant religions.
     
  13. FeelinGroovy

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    Which one do you use for example?
     
  14. Oz!

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    a mixture of lots (i hope) .... like to think i've taken a lil' of lots of different things outa life :D
     
  15. mynameiskc

    mynameiskc way to go noogs!

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    yes. but they were fuck ups anyway.
     
  16. mynameiskc

    mynameiskc way to go noogs!

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    of course, I'M not saying that, because i realize that first we're all human beings. and all human beings fuck up. and not all christian religions have "confession." but nearly every society has it's own method for paying the consequences of their fuck ups, like apologizing and making reparations, but a lot of people here like to get hung up on christianity's version.
     
  17. BraveSirRubin

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    KC, enlighten us with what a "Fuck-up" is :)
    How would that be forgiveness? True, I only refered to a certain sect of christianity, but I was only giving an example. Religions justify acts with or without forgivness given afterwards.
     
  18. mynameiskc

    mynameiskc way to go noogs!

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    lol. LET IT GO! poor dead horsey...
     
  19. mynameiskc

    mynameiskc way to go noogs!

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    i consider a fuck up to be pretty subjective in terms. i would consider murder a fuck up, on the extreme end, stealing, deliberately hurting someone. whatever pricks your conscience, i guess.
     
  20. Libertine

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    My point has yet to be refuted.
     

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