Punk---Hippie's Adversary

Many sourses say the Punk culture is the hippie culture's enemy. punk people use "hippie" as a pejoritive term. most punks are violent, hippies are not. so can you guys give me the answer, is the punks enemies of hippies? just curious and want to make sure. Thank you!

 

In the begining it was like that I think

some how though punks just ended up beging hippies with mohawks

 

eh...I disagree. While punks and hippies may be vastly different, they seem to be pursuing a similar counter-cultural ideal, just in very different ways.

 

Punk was the next counter-cultural movment. A lot of ideals are the same it's just that the punks had beer and speed instead of acid.

 

A lot of the big punk bands did a lot of acid.

 

Yes,I think that 'Punk' is the antithesis of what 'Hippies' stand for.
I can remeber when 'Punk Rock' exploded onto the scene in 1976.
It was an outpouring of 'frustration' with the stale state of music & fashion.
By 1975 the 'Hippies' were mellowed into 'smile' sew-on patches on bell-bottoms.
The energy & enthusiasm was draining out of hippies generally.
'Punk' offered teen-agers 'an instant rush of adrenellin,'a cheap-thrill of protest aggression'.
Today,in 2006 I believe that the 'Hippie' creed & philosophy is what the world needs now;not the nihilistic anarchy of the Punk movement that wants to protest but hasn't developed any thesis beyond protesting the status-quo.
Personally,I hate Punk Rock,but then Punk Rock hates me so what the f***.

 

the phrase "never trust a hippie" was popularised by punk artist jamie reid and the idea was quickly grabbed and adopted by his co-collaborator Malcom Macleren...... shame that so many people let these fuckwits put their own stamp on what being Punk meant... and worse, took it as sooth.

Personnally i've never known a punk who gives a flying fuck how anyone lived their life, and rightly so, i guess many punks, like all cultures, have their sheep and need to be "led" by others. Sad really.

 

most punks are hippy today and most hippys are punks .......back in the 70"s hippys and punks got on with each other .

 

That's right.I don't recall any friction between the two groups in the 1970s.



"Never trust a hippie" - That's a bit like: "Never trust a politician"!.

I think Malcolm McClaren was just a good entreuanprener businessman.
Interestingly,the Punks used to gather in the Kings Road in London,not to fight Hippies,but to fight: Teddy Boys/Rockabillies .Strange as it seems!.:H

 

ahhhhhhhh to be young again ........there" s gonna be a borstal break out " babylons burnin " into the valley " submission " 48 hours " soldier soldier " jilted john " teenage kicks" london girls " hong kong garden were"s me mohair -flemmins and doc martin boots .

 

I dont label myself as a hippie or a punk, I've figured that it don't matter as everyone has a very different view of what they both are, I get on with most people,
and I'm not against violence, as long as its not vicious or meaning to hurt, I am happy to get hurt a bit as long as the feeling is good if ya get me? but i think they are both very very similar

 

well said dude . punks and hippys are very alike " yesterdays punks are todays hippys . generation gaps is all that divides us .

 

Well think of the monster rock turned into during the 70s! Absolute rubbish, I'd have hated hippies in the late 70s too!

 

alot of punks say they hate hippies to sound more punk. or at least that is what i've seen. and peace punks are like hippie punks. i dont kno, its all just labels

 

exactly

 

The punk movement (which I am admittedly not that familiar with) spun off from the hippie movement, so there are ties between the two. Both movements involved young people rebelling against the mainstream culture, and using music as a way to distance themselves from previous generations. Come to think about it, every modern-day youth movement has its nucleus with the hippies. That does not mean you can't distinguish hippies from its spin-offs.

From my perspective, the hippie movement, remaining the nucleus despite of all of the vacillations in modern youth culture,* is the authentic type that any other youth movement must look for inspiration and to learn about itself. The hippie movement taught peace and brotherhood, whereas the spin-offs are full of angry, superficial kids with music lacking the artistic talent of earlier times: challenging any form of authority for the sake of it.

Heavy metal, being one type of spin-off (the long hair and mind-numbing music being two examples of hippie influence), is a perfect example. The metalheads never preached peace and brotherhood. They had (and still have) something to "prove": a type of aggressive machisimo behind the make-up and gender-bending.

Look at the music of the '60s: it was rebellious (challenging social norms) and yet beautiful. I only wish we had artists like those of the '60s still today.

Instead we have post-grunge, college rock (perhaps the worst kind of rock), and lame attempts to popularize underground rock music (however it evolves) by taking away its natural coarseness with syrupy melodies and superficial lyrics (the kind bringing mass appeal).

So yes, punks and hippies can be categorized together. Yet they have enough differences to merit their own categories.

*Most would consider the hippies a fad, and indeed many hippies grew out of the movement to enter the corporate world and/or just became conformists. Yet hippie culture pervades the modern culture, as can be seen in the way young people dress and the music they listen to. They are hippies without the name.

 

Ah, my loves. Us people have a lot to learn...

We're all people.

 

punks are REALLY REALLY PISSED OFF hippys. thats how i see it

 

punks are responsible for introducing violence into counterculture.

 

Not only punks do that...