Hi everybody. I wonder what you guys think of your fitness out there? Strength? Endurance? Do any of you feel that it is a relevant aspect of life? What about specifically during a trip? I stopped being a smoker because of an acid trip, and my other trips have raised to me a lot of realisation about my body that has changed my perspective on going to teh gym and stuff. I love to move my body around in every possible way whilst on acid.. but there is an extent to which I physically cannot support such weight... some positions are rather obscure. as well as this, I sometimes feel scared while by myself tripping out and about. I feel scared because I am a pretty person, and I like to do flamboyant things and be generally present wherever I am. The things I like to do and the way i hop around sometimes makes me feel like a real target for street bullies when I become self conscious. I realised that I only had one thing to fear - being dominated by another man. I want to be able to go wherever I want. So I have started trying to get into shape. im not so concerned about fitness.. I figure that will come when I start having sex regularly again whenever I get all my shit together and find a girlfriend. But strength is something ive been focussing on a lot lately.. and for the first time in my life I have concrete goals to build up. I think that it will improve my life a lot by making me feel safe, as well as increasing the many potentials in my life in terms of diong awesome shit while tripping on LSD, as well as generally looking real hot and gettin paid for it (like zoolander) i hope that doesnt make me sound like a dick.. but I think it is a virtue to look good and worship yourself (within reason) I wonder if any of you are ripped, or fit, or conscious of your strength, and find that it relates at all to your tripping? Most people i know who like ot expand their minds.. arent too conscious of their physical performance
i feel like i am generally fit, as i ride my bike every day, i like to hike/go on walks, i can do 20 pushups, swim, run around, climb trees... but i am lacking in the strength/muscle area. now i've been in some fights, and i've never gotten pummeled, but i would say 3/4 of guys could beat me up... and sometimes i worry about the same type of this you talked about while tripping... not that i'd every be looking to get in a fight, but what if someone tries to mug me, or beat me for whatever reason. i'm not gonna be too happy with that, and i feel "not my own man" if i can't completely defend myself. i don't lift weights though because i'm lazy, i did for a short time and didn't get any bigger (probably not enough dedication), and 3) i have a girlfriend who likes my somewhat scrawny-ness.
hmmm. Personaly when I take psychedelic drugs I always feel a strong urge to conect with nature- to never eat bad foods, and to keep by body in optimum condition. This is why I keep fit by regular exercise. But strength? Fitness and Strength are different things, but reading your post im not too sure what you want to achieve. Are you saying you want to do exercise purely to look fit? Because if so just go to the gym and work on your upper body.
I am personally interested in getting bigger upper body. But I am keepign the discussion open to fitness too, in case pplhave interesting oppinions.
I've had moments where I thought about getting back to the natural way and working the land for a living, and therefor being more healthy, but at the moment with a son and a new baby coming, I cant give up the job I have now. I would lose everything were I to loose my management position in brokerage and freight distribution. However I have seen several situations with people who are, as you get at, able to fuck people up without barely extering force. My one friend, a kid from Taiwan who has an Irish mom, is quite honestly the most naturally powerful person I've ever met. Never goes to the gym, never works out, he runs a half mile a day though but I mean he doesnt life weights, eat healthy, or any of that stuff. But, not only is this guy unbeleivably powerful, he is also most likely the most intelligent guy I've ever gotten close enough to get drunk and fight with and still hang out the next day. Now this dude, also (according to some girls, and one in particular who is beautiful that I caused their relationship) is at the very least, just over fairly attractive. He's not pretty as you say Bill, but some girls think he's wonderful, enough to be content with. And I will say, that every time I've taken LSD or magic mushrooms with him (which is in the hundreds, I used to live with this kid and eat acid or shrooms every weekend, sometimes every day) he has completley abandoned his sense of bodily inhabitance. He would start crying at the beauty of Tao (what can I say, he's asian lol), and would go off about how everything he does is a joke, that it's just a way to pass the time and tell your mind not to have to think. I've never once seen him get into his role as a dominant human male and get introspective about it, and although obviously he could have without mentioning it me to (after all, who talks about shit like this haha) I seriously doubt it. The cat is truly broken down to a pile of dust and picked back up again every time he trips, just like me, someone he could probably rip in half and then into quarters with his bare hands lol :cheers2: So my opinion is, no, physical strength is not important at all, it's only relative to your situation. If I suddenly had to work a farm 16 hours a day just to survive, you bet your ass Id be breaking my back in the fields. But as life stands right now, I dont have the slightest worry and am not intimidated by those physically stronger than myself. Worrying about such things is a waste of time to me, the worse that will happen is some physical pain of getting your ass kicked, and the emotional pain of having the ego shattered in front of the opposite sex, both of which are pathetic situations with which to make a judgement on someone. Health is definitley important, and I do make the best effort to eat healty when I can afford it. But as far as working my muscles, I truly do not find myself concerned with it one bit. Kung fu is awesome, but so is playing the piano.
whenever i have a trip, or even sometimes when i do strong opiates.. i like to do 20-30 pushups before gettin fucked up.. helps stretch the body out, and it really can make you feel better.. sometimes i do it after i get really fucked up, and im kinda burnt out.. a little strechin and pressure on your muscles can help wake u up, kill the burnt buzz and just feel better, in the same sense that a shower makes you feel better in the morning. have to do it in moderation though, cuz if ur not in great shape, can end up stressin your muscles and u will be in some minor pain for a few days.. fitness can make you feel better mentally and physically, well it does me anyways.
Naturally! But that is the beauty of both kyria and hatha yogic sadhana, now matter what your limitations are physically (or mentally, for that matter), you will be supremley healthy if you stick to the program of stretching, bending, pulling, and freezing in posture, while pushing fresh blood around the limbs and brain and loosening all the mental waste baggage at the same time. Doing yoga posture focused on the legs led to one of my fondest LSD trips, with another member on this forum actually.
I cant answer that question for you Bill. There are no words to describe it. Embarrassment is nothing to be feared, unless your mind is dependant upon your appearance in the eyes of others for its source of renewable strength. Pain is one in the same as pleasure, they are just different ends of a single spectrum and both have purpose in material nature and in spiritual nature, aiding your progression. If you are seriously concerned with your pretty facial structure and your flamboyant personality, and are worried about getting your ass beat, then I am definitley dumbfounded and dont know how to express to you that which you are asking me for. A man of your intellect I would have never assumed to be one to call himself pretty. No offense, we are who we are, you just pulled a total 180 on my perception of your personality. Everyone has attachment to looks, but to go out of your way to acknowledge your own attractive appearance is indicative of a thought process which is unhealthy, in my opinion.
Honestly it's not even about that, but thank you for the added consideration. My son is extremly handsome, he's light years more attractive than I am lol, Im sure he will do just fine when he's out of my grasp :tongue:
By the way Bill, I only say this so that you dont take the opinion that I think less of you for being this way. I am also, at times which are pretty rare, found questioning my girlfriend about how I look, if I still make her happy to see me and whatever, personal stuff. It is entirely normal to be concerned with your appearance, after all it's natures most powerful influence which determines wether or not you get laid. By unhealthy, I only am referring to your self reference as being pretty. When we begin to think and share our thoughts of such matters, we add one more item to the list of insecurities which are going to haunt you when you make the exit from this Earth. That is what I mean by unhealthy.
i know what you are saying. but I still think of myself as an attractive being because that is what I am told! I have my own personal inner life and esteem. the things that I alone see in myself and in my life, and take comfort in. But I mean... this life.. to me, is all about a connection between people. I can sit with myself and contemplate existence.. But in the end I want to share my existence with other people. And I want to make the most of my appearance because it is my direct connection to other human beings. At any rate, I dont think that anything worldly passes on after death, if our souls continue. So I dont really relate to the 'insecurities i will take with me'. I use the word pretty because of how I affect other people with my looks. I know that people feel happier when connecting with attractive people. People are more likely to listen to attractive people, and be inspired by attractive people. Since I want to do a lot of things in this world in my life, being attractive is a worthy trait, as long as it is used to present a good soul. but yes, it is unhealthy in the fact that i would be much more grieffd if I sufferent a horrible mauling accident. still, I treat this world as if it is the only one, and this makes me cherish my body as an artwork, as I do every other part of my life omg I sound like a european body sculptor or something. but to me, I just feel like I am being honest about a part of who I am. and an interesting thing, to bring this back to topic, is that I find trips eccentuate my feelings about my body. I like to watch all of the forms that I can create with it, and it makes me happy. when I take LSD I can move my body to the best of its ability too, and seeing this, I realised the extents of my body's function as a machine that can move through space. And now I want to improve that function. So that I can move through more space, at my will. Maybe it has something to do with my enjoyment of videogames.. but I feel like when in the right state, I can move me body through space effortlessly, and to have reality around me change to my own will as opposed to the physical forces around me.. is a very enjoyable and worthwhile pursuit!
if anything, i feel less attractive when i take psychedelics and look in the mirror. i know my girlfriend had that problem a lot more than me. i just try to ignore it, yea i look funny, so what. she kinda gets stuck on it though. the last time i tripped (on 2c-e) i felt slightly worried about a physical threat. i went walking in the park at 10:00 at night, i thought maybe some weirdos would be out and about...i guess i was the only one
when i started smoking weed heavily and dropped acid and ate shrooms during the summer, I don't know which helped the most but inbetween those two school years (highschool at the time) My asthma basically disappeared (one-two a year during winter, mostly from running during my gym class too) and I became thinner, and I just feel alot more healthy... My guesses are that a couple puffs a day keep the asthma away and that I'm subconsiosly more aware of my personal health and fitness due to one of these two psychedelics. before I dropped acid I was really rough on my body and didn't really care much for it. Now I find my mind to be the most important thing to me, followed by my body/health. whereas before it would probably be getting laid number #1 and getting high #2. psychedelics showed me whats really important in life and I feel if i wasnt introduced to them I would be in alot worse shape and would probably be getting drunk all day or something...Really weird how thereputic these experiences can turn out to be.
i like weed too, but i kinda doubt it cures your asthma..lots of people have asthma as a kid, and "grow out of it." not the most scientific explanation, but i've seen it.
I feel ya. I've always been pretty self-conscious, and working out and exercise not only relieves stress but as you see progress in your self it makes you more confident and proud and instead of assuming that people are looking at you and thinking something negative, you assume that they're thinking "damn he looks good"..it's all in your head. Exercise will always be a necessity in my life.
Being a psychedelic drug enthusiast and a physical education major I can appreciate this thread. I got out of routine over the summer and just started getting back in to it, it feels great. I have always found physical activity to increase the way I feel mentally and physically. When I exercise frequently I feel more balanced. Feeling balanced is beneficial for going into a drug-induced state. Before I had the best mushroom trip of my life me and my friend went to the gym and played racquetball right before. I have never exercised while on psychedelics though, I don't know how well that would go. I have found that a moderate amount pot can help me.. Stonerbill, make sure your goals are realistic and achievable. Work your way up slowly. Some people set the bar too high. Results come over time. The great feeling you get comes right away....
