Psychedelic sexuality

Discussion in 'Psychedelics' started by TryptaNice, Apr 14, 2013.

  1. TryptaNice

    TryptaNice Member

    My question is... Does anyone else find psychedelics to be a huge turn on sexually?

    I will go more into detail about what I mean about psychedelics turning me on... First off, the sort of electric body buzz that feels like energy flowing through me can feel like a full body/mind orgasm that lasts for hours, at a simple level. But going deeper, I find it to be a huge turn on to give my self over to the psychedelic (I like tryptamines the most) and let the tryptamine do with me what it will... I like the feeling of submitting to the power of the experience and just feeling my ego disintegrate. It's like a somewhat masochistic pleasure, maybe...? I'm not sure. I feel way overwhelmed, but I like the feeling of it more than anything else I can think of... It feels reminiscent of creation, and that is what sexuality is for- creation. <3

    To me, body and mind are incredibly linked together through sexuality. I have had physical orgasms as a result of 'mind orgasms' brought on simply by just smoking DMT and having a really amazing and out of this universe breakthrough, and my greatest fantasy perhaps is to have a partner dose me with tryptamines and overwhelm me... like even if I seem to be having an experience that is more than enough for me to handle, it would turn me on so much if my partner for example tied me up and made me have another different tryptamine or made me smoke DMT and lit the pipe for me and such...

    I dunno, I find that sort of fantasy to be incredibly hot, lol...

    Does anyone else here relate, or am I weird? Unfortunately my partner doesn't relate, so I haven't exactly had my fantasy fulfilled... :/ I have met *a few* people who relate to me on this though... and I thought that maybe I might meet more people on this forum that relate.

    (Note: First I posted this in the sexuality forum, but then I realized that it probably belonged here in the psychedelics forum instead.. but I couldn't figure out how to delete it from the other forum. Hopefully a moderator will close the thread or something. Sorry- I tried to delete the other post but I'm new to the forums and don't really know the ropes yet!)
     
  2. guerillabedlam

    guerillabedlam _|=|-|=|_

    I find my libidinal energy often turned on by psychedelics.

    I am impartial to Tryptamines and Phenethylamines in this regards, seems there are particular chemicals or plants of each class which are more apt to elicit sexual feelings, energies, desires for me.
     
  3. TryptaNice

    TryptaNice Member

    Yeah see, sometimes I find people who understand what I mean to an extent and other people can't wrap their minds around it in the slightest. I feel like I hold a deep love for tryptamines that I'm not even sure I fully understand myself. Hmm.. maybe this post is too personal for an online forum... I don't want everyone to think I'm weird :p lol
     
  4. Mr.Writer

    Mr.Writer Senior Member

    At first I was going to say something like "but on psychedelics, everything is sex, and everything is everything . . . " but I see now you are actually deriving erotic non-chemical pleasure from the act of, and fantasizing about, loosing control of yourself mentally, ego death, and psychedelic aesthetics. This is unique and I've never heard anybody else have a psychedelic fetish.

    Just to be clear; you are not discussing the states of arousal present in a psychedelic experience. These are discovered early in any psychedelic experiments and psychedelics in general can provide incredibly erotic states (some more than others), and also of course blur and completely erase the boundary of what is defined as erotic/sexy vs. mundane/non-sexual.
    What you are discussing is getting turned on, even while sober, when thinking about the psychedelic experience, and even being able to achieve an actual orgasm just experiencing psychedelic loosening of mind.

    Did I get that right :p

    If so, that is truly awesome, because that is quite unique. There really is a potential for sexual excitation from any source, but I've never heard of that source being the psychedelic mindstate in-and-of-itself.
     
  5. TryptaNice

    TryptaNice Member

    Yeah, pretty much! I do get turned on just by thinking of submitting myself completely, to tryptamines in particular. My boyfriend jokes around and says that I'm "having a tryptamine affair", LOL.

    I mean yes, I also find some of the sensations that I experience (particularly the lovely buzzing/electric body feeling I get from some psychedelics) and I have had orgasms from tripping alone, so I am *also* talking about the state of arousal during a trip itself... but you are right; I also actually get turned on just by thinking about it (like, when I think of the feeling of having my ego completely disintegrate and there's nothing I can do about it other than just let go and be completely overwhelmed by the experience, I just find that to be such an incredible turn on).. and I want my partner to dose me with psychedelics as I said... I just find the idea to be so intriguing, to give up control of my self and my ego to my partner and the psychedelic, to entrust my mind completely and trust that the universe will do with me what it will. It's just an amazing feeling. <3

    Glad that you don't think it's weird. :p

     
  6. I agree with just about all of it - on the scale of D/s I'm an s and on the scale of S/m I'm definitely an m
    but
    I still couldn't picture being tied up while on psychedelic [as described in OP] as pleasurable. Everything else before and after that point, just without the physical restraint.

    Orgasms without touching the genitals are always something beyond the ordinary,

    TryptaNice presents a really good thread, was especially clear in presenting the idea, such that the tryptamines are not a simple replacement for Viagra. Word choice had to be heck during the first draft :)

    I don't want to go way out in left field, but could this be correctly called "psychedelic fetish"?
    EDIT to say that Writer had already used the two words together, "psychedelic fetish"
    It makes a lot more sense in my mind with those two words
     
  7. FlyingFly

    FlyingFly Dickens

    No, never on psychedelics (not counting weed). I'm usually hyper-sexual but on, for example tryptamines, I just love (platonic) the world, everyone and everything. But it feels like my sex-drive is off. I probably couldn't even get my thing up.
    It is just too... unbelieveable, wonderfull. It is taking me beyond everything I know, destructing physical reality as it is. It is very intelectually moving experience to me.
     
  8. Just do it one time. You and your significant other, alone, just the two of you.

    Of course like you said, it can be equally as amazing without sexual connotation. But once you have the psychedelic sexuality, it is something you won't forget quick.
     
  9. TryptaNice

    TryptaNice Member

    You got it spot on.. and as for the being tied up part, it would be cool if that were a minor detail.. like, say I was already completely gone from this world, nearly in hyperspace, and my partner was just like "No, you're having MORE!" And like, force-fed me tryptamines (haha). Well I guess it couldn't truly be forced if I wanted it.. but I'm sure you know what I mean. But I wouldn't want any super hardcore bondage during a psychedelic experience either, as it might be disturbing in that state of mind... I'm so glad that some people can relate. I'm so used to being told I'm just weird for feeling this way about psychedelics, haha.



    Andddd FlyingFly, the psychedelic experience for me also destructs the physical.. or maybe more so, the spiritual/abstract engulfs the physical so that anything that is usually physical can be felt for what it is spiritually.. I think that's the most amazing part about the 'psychedelic sexuality', actually. :D The spiritual and physical are indistinguishable from one another... synaesthetic overload... everything leading up to pure release and let-go.
     
  10. Mr.Writer

    Mr.Writer Senior Member

    FlyingFly, I totally get what you mean by the platonic headspace. However if you can slowly work through it and work with the physical effects (might have difficulty getting erection/orgasm for example) then slowly a couple can proceed into a sexual scenario. Perhaps "practice" with masturbation if you are curious how this transition would feel.

    At a certain point the platonic IS the sexual IS the platonic; there is surely a platonic (perfect) form of sex, and this can be accessed and channeled. Indeed, once you experience it it will stay with you, psychedelics + sex is one of the most fascinating and pleasurable activities a human can experience IMO.
     
  11. seaofdreams

    seaofdreams Member

    While this does sound strange to me, it doesn't surprise me either. Studies have shown women are basically turned on by everything, the only disconnect is in their mind with emotions. Furthermore scientists have declared the extreme female mind to be basically schizophrenic. As for me, I don't get sexually aroused while transcending dimensions.
     
  12. Mr.Writer

    Mr.Writer Senior Member

    lol i'd love to see the research showing that women are turned on by everything and that the 'extreme female mind' (what is that?) is basically schizophrenic.
     
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  13. TryptaNice

    TryptaNice Member

    LOL the female mind is basically schizophrenic?? I actually read that there is a higher incidence of schizophrenia among males, and females are more prone to mood "disorders" such as depression.
     
  14. seaofdreams

    seaofdreams Member

    this is from an article in psychology today:

    "The female brain tends toward empathizing and mentalizing thinking, treating machines and objects as if they were other people. They attribute minds, thoughts, and feelings to inanimate objects. That, according to Crespi and Badcock, is the essence of paranoid schizophrenia. Paranoid schizophrenics hear voices where there are no people, and they attribute minds and thinking where none exist, such as when they believe other people are talking about or conspiring against them when they aren’t. Paranoid schizophrenics are hypermentalistic, and overinfer minds and emotions in other people, just as autistics are hypomentalistic, and underinfer minds and emotions in other people."

    As for women being turned on by everything, of course I'm generalizing but :

    "The study, conducted by Meredith Chivers of the Center for Addiction and Mental Health and J. Michael Bailey of Northwestern University, was published in the October issue of Biological Psychology. The researchers found that while straight men are only aroused by females of the human variety, straight women are equally aroused by all human sexual activity, including lesbian, heterosexual and homosexual male sex, and at least somewhat aroused by nonhuman sex. Each subject involved in the report watched seven two-minute clips of sex: six scenes involving humans and one of bonobos. The subject constantly monitored and noted his or her subjective arousal. The subject was also affixed with a device that measured genital arousal–penis circumference for the men and vaginal pulse amplitude for the women."

    This is even considering women are much less visually stimulated than men are. I realize this doesn't really help anyone, so if you really wanna feel unweird, watch this documentary: A Hundred Orgasms a Day
     
  15. TryptaNice

    TryptaNice Member

    I suppose some of what they are saying makes sense, as the limbic system (processing of emotions) tends to have so much more obvious activity in the female brain. But those two things (schizophrenia and feeling attachment/care for objects or conceptual entities) are *extremely* different... feeling a care towards inanimate/nonperson entities is not the same thing as actually believing they are conscious or alive! :p the scientist who wrote that made a very poor and unrealistic parallel- this article probably was very criticized by other scientists in the field for using that wording too... I would know a bit about this, working in the field, especially considering how 'schizophrenia' is scientifically defined. :p That is pretty funny, though- thanks for sharing the interesting research. What do you mean by "the only disconnect is in their mind with emotions"?
     
  16. seaofdreams

    seaofdreams Member

    I basically find that women can be turned on by a very wide array of things but are mentally limited by their emotional filter. Like you pointed out earlier the physical and mental are separate but linked on some level...

    I agree with your first point however, I still somewhat agree with the article's conclusion as I've had problems with past women on this issue. Basically they would believe I harbored a feeling or emotion which wasn't there and I couldn't persuade them otherwise. I know all about schizophrenia too as my brother suffers from the disorder. Many of the mindstates which are possible through psychedelics are labeled schizophrenic by science as well. Strange thing is that the people who use these things many times consider the psychedelic experience as "realer than real" or an ultimate reality. Though I've yet to know a scientist that has figured out how consciousness works and I am of the opinion that we all create our own realities and anything which contradicts the consensus is labeled crazy/disorder.
     
  17. TryptaNice

    TryptaNice Member

    Oh boy, haha yes you indeed have a point. I think that women are sometimes *more adept and accurate* at picking up on human emotion, but dude..sometimes it goes so overboard that they're picking up on emotions that aren't even there! I have experienced this with other females, particularly when it came to their own personal insecurities or jealousy especially. It seems like a very bipolar-esque trait (my mom is a lot like this)...

    And hell yeah- perception is reality indeed. :) I hate calling nonordinary perceptions merely 'disorders'.. it's like they're saying that there is nothing positive whatsoever about the nonordinary perception; no way to look at it and dissect it so that it can potentially be used for self betterment in the individual experiencing the phenomena. I mean, I thought that's what bringing up subconscious thoughts was for in therapy, after all. This is one major area in which I disagree with many professionals in my field.. I dislike the standard diagnosis/medication approach (if that's *all* they do, that is).

    I know this is off topic, but I'm a bit curious about your brother and what he experiences... if you feel like sharing, that is. You could also PM me if we want the thread to stay on topic *shrug*
     
  18. TryptaNice

    TryptaNice Member

    Ugh wtf, sorry I accidentally disliked your last post... I'm on mobile and tried to hit the thumbs up, but my finger wasn't in the right place *apparently*. Any way to undo that? Lol
     
  19. Jimi2007

    Jimi2007 Member

    It's funny, I just recently experimented with LSD and then mushrooms with my girlfriend (first psychedelic experience for both of us) and this is what I found. On mushrooms, sex is like the farthest thing from my mind. I even tripped once by myself on about 2.5gs of mushrooms and tried masturbating just see what an orgasm would feel like, and really the physical sensation was just a little better than cumming on weed and the mental sensation wasn't very sexual at all: When I did think about sex, all I really thought about was how fascinating it is, and then go into evolution, and then my mind would just wander and I would completely lose focus and often my erection. It took awhile to finally cum... and like I said, it wasn't even really worth it in the end.

    LSD for me, on the other hand, makes sex FUCKING INCREDIBLE. Definitely the best sex I've ever had, and my GF too (I've never heard her scream so loud, she usually doesn't cum that hard at all). On a physical level it felt amazing, I could feel every little contour of her vagina, and cumming just sent ripples of pleasure (and colors) throughout my body. And the mental stimulation was great too, I just felt SO close to my girlfriend, I couldn't help but think about how lucky we are and how much I love her. It also feels like our bodies are sort of melting together, which makes it a lot more intimate and gave everything a very liberal feeling.

    So, that's my experience at least. Probably different than a lot of people who enjoy sex with psychedelics just because in my case it's with someone I love very much, and that was always a big part of the experience for me. I can't even imagine what sex would be like on psychedelics with someone you hardly know, or even someone you just don't love or care for. It would be VERY different, but I'm not sure if I would dislike it, really. And I have no freaking idea why LSD is so much better than mushrooms. I thought that was a little strange, considering that even though they're pretty different, they're still quite similar. I have no idea why mushrooms actively turns me off, while LSD actively turns me on.
     
  20. seaofdreams

    seaofdreams Member

    i've been able to have great orgasms on shrooms but it makes sense that plant based entheogens would have more 'body load' than chemicals.

    hey i tried PMing it won't let me, so i will share a few things here. my brother experiences many bizarre things from hearing sounds, having strange memories from when he was kid, and thinking everyone is plotting against him. one of craziest things he did was after hearing a japanese singer who he thought was communicating to him telepathically, he then flew to tokyo to find the woman.
     

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