so, there is a theory that states lsd, mushrooms and the like have a tendency to radiate and manifest themselves through the energy of the one who has taken them and affect other, sober people near them. this is maybe about aura or something. I do not know. and I do not know if that's for real also. yet I experienced this phenomenon more than once. often, someone who is high on lsd would cause others to fall into a mild lsd trip just by being near. there are cases when the sober (or just mildly stoned by weed) people felt as if they have taken something unknowingly and began thinking seriously if they have drank water etc.. with lsd in it; by just a high-on-lsd-friend's existence near them. I wonder what you think on this ps: in some occasions the sober, affected people knew beforehand that the person (or people) was high with a psychedelic. so it may just be a trick of their anticipating inner minds. yet in some other occasions, only after some time did they learn it and became very surprised.
I think its just the stoned/ tripping people talking and acting abnormaly which creates an atmosphere of the high. I very much doubt there is some force behind the drugs making sober people unsober.
I doubt it too. It's the mere "possibility" that intrigues me hmm and I do not think it would be like "some force behind the drugs" even if the situation described here does exist. I wish to speculate on the possibility of an emphatic/telepathic sharing of an altered state of mind.
conversations while under the influence tend to knock down social barriers so to speak....a sober person will gauge what topics have been brought up and what sorts of responses would be appropriate, based on how fucked up the crowd is
i don't think that this could be true. i am almost always around sober people when i'm tripping and they never start tripping or anything.
wow, skeptical bunch of kids i totally, completely believe in it. but i do reiki, so i know how easy it is to share energy with someone... i think if you're not at least open to the idea that this is true, you have not done quite enough acid yet. or done it in the right environment.
hardly. I have met and felt reiki first when under negative conditioning of my mind; I was a STRICT dialectical materalist back then. it was one of the first experiences that shattered my logic shell. so as I said, it's hardly placebo. now, back to the topic I think most of you know and lived those weird telepathic experiences while under the influence of lsd and the like psychedelics. this thing might be just another variation of it I think, if it exists. and anything is possible, quantum physics and chaos theory states that all is one and everything affects others. when the brain is concerned, much more likely. and maybe not even psychedelic substances are required for such an effect after all. I know some times in some secret underground psy/goatrance gatherings here, I've experienced a natural high by just being among that much (sober) people with open, altered, "enlightened" minds. energy... I'm still speculating
if you have ever been in the presence of a guru, you could have felt it too... when a guru would come to the hare krishna temple when i was going there, everyone would be floating around, all whacky and spacey and completely blissed out, and the really receptive ones would just be bouncing little blissballs .
If you've ever been in the presence of your own child, you will have felt it as well (I know you dont have kids Prism lol) I have not met my physical guru, but I was most definitley vistied by Yogananda during Kriya yoga, and upon opening my eyes, everything in nature (everything period) danced so jubiantly into life, as if I was intoxicated from magic mushrooms. Though it was much more euphoric, stable, and calming in essence. Sandalwood & Rasberry, John * Hare Krsna ~
from wikipedia: reputable Reiki practitioners encourage their clients to consult a medical doctor for serious conditions, stating that Reiki can be used to complement conventional medicine. sounds like the definition of a placebo to me. this falls into the same category as "faith healing" by televangelists. if you really want to feel better, then you will.
Well, at least you rely on the reports by online sources rather than your own experience metamorph. ~
there's nothing wrong with skepticism. yet one must not forget that it's a two sided blade; it can cut both fallacy and truth if not used with care. and some things can not be simply told, described or shared with mere words; as is enlightenment. so, please do not believe me try and see for yourself. use intuition in concordance with science and logic. back on topic friends
calling reiki a placebo is not skepticism. that is a dogmatic fundamentalist thing to say. skepticism would be saying,'it could be placebo, or it could be legit'.
but would you not agree that placebo plays a big role in concepts like "faith healing"? i dont think my assumption was misplaced. i will admit i do not have much knowledge about reiki, only that it coincides with qi and claims to heal without true medicine. its easy to see why i have my doubts. as an atheist, i tend to equate concepts like reiki with the influence of a higher power. id still be very interested to hear first hand experience with reiki.
steer clear of any dogma, be it of spiritual or scientific origins. I made that mistake in the past. I repeat: do NOT await second-hand information from other people. see it for yourself with an open mind. some things can NOT be simply told because they need higher forms of communication and we, modern people, forgot those forms. or... go ask alice
i dunno...good old fashioned willpower has always done the trick for me. what kind of communication are you referring to, telepathy? the hivemind? me and alice are good friends
reiki is not going to get the junior mint out of your spleen. but it does work. if you've ever felt it, you know it works, and that's all i'm gonna say to try to explain. i think it's really... silly... to say "i don't believe in any higher power". i don't know. i'm too apathetic right now to try to explain why it's so silly. but i think it is.