Psychedelic based commune thoughts

Lately I've been meditating, reading, and tripping, contemplating life and everything in it. I've come to the conclusion that the only sensible thing to do is to build an outside based, hunter gatherer commune.

There'd be no real religion but psychedelics would be a big part of everything. Celebrations, ceremonies, and spiritual uses as well. Reason being, I feel closer to the Gaian mind and connected to others and I believe the ancient Aztecs, and native americans had it right when they chose psychedelics for worship and celebrations!

It would be somewhat nomadic, to decrease exhaustion of edibles and game in one area. Very culture oriented, and bring back the mystery of the world. Create and pass down stories for things like why the moon waxes and wanes, seasons changing, plant spirits etc... Education would be necessities like shelter building, edible plants, medicines, hunting etc...

Everybody and Anybody welcome, although if you infringe on the right to any natural freedoms of any dweller in the commune, accountability would be required.

Basically, I'm trying to build the society Mckenna, Abrams, and Sheldrake dreamed of.

Just wanting a kind of feedback from all of you. Right now I'm studying to become an Ethnobotanist and would like to finish that before starting something of this magnitude, but I am very interested and willing. As of now, the primary psychedelic choice would be Mushrooms, but others would be welcome of course (not sure if there should be an organic/chemical guideline, but acid is too wonderful to deny)

And also, please ask any questions! I need you guys to help me find the flaws and ideas that'll need thinking of!

 

Any feedback would be really appreciated

 

That would be a cool idea..I'd join, but where would the money come from to uphold everything?

 

You'd come as you are.

Bring as little or as much as you'd like, but the focus is living off the land.

To better assist in that, a general education on the local flora and fauna uses, medicines, and foods would be beneficial, but the group would be able to show and teach.

Main goal is "going back to mother earth". Archaic Revival if you will

 

traditionally illicit practices fuel such things. tens of thousands of years of trading and negotiating resources has unfortunately left most regions to be a bit too delicate to completely support the mentalities bred into western culture. That and the tendency for pedophilia is a hard one to cut out.

 

I'm not sure I understand you

 

fortunately for your anti money ethos society is already being conditioned for such an event. The asset consolidation is the cohesion of the individual human elements into a succinct entity. This may trouble many and attempts to revert to a more individualistic time have been common but ultimately we will become an entity which itself reproduces, and our life is at the mercy of what best suits.

 

You're stringing large words together in a way that makes them meaningless. You're like a child holding his father's hammer, you should learn to use such heavy objects before you swing.

 

sorry I have a habit of jumping logic. I was saying that to accommodate to the modern individual (which is genetically different to those who existed in a similar manner to what you seem to suggest is more sustainable) then there are things that are much harder to supply on demand when one doesn't have a base of operation and reliable sources of various commodities.

I can't get passed how the nomadic approach was one of the most regimented social structures in existence. Yes as a rite of passage it is an empowering event but seldom has it been viewed as a viable existence.

 

You make an awesome point. And it's my biggest fear with this type of commune. Trying to convince people that it IS a sustainable way of living.

And part of that "re-education" is unlearning the "need" for those commodities. If you don't mind, may I ask what commodities you're thinking of.

 

well thats the issue i think, that different people have different physical needs.

I'm not saying that everyones perceived needs are to be met, but the line of what is and is not needed...to me at least, appears to be a moralistic choice.

 

hmm thought i posted again...but ill go again.

belief is an awesome thing, one can overcome massive obstacles that may at one stage have been educated/indoctrinated or what have you into society but theres no end to saying which is invalid as the majority of them serve some purpose to the individuals need.

saying that, the definition of what is needed and undeeded will always be a moralistic one. What I mean by that is when the needs of someone fall in line with the needs of others, then they are accepted. It's a constantly expanding and collapsing field of expectations.

 

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Well if the prospective inductees feel that this community lacks the hospitalities that they require, they are more than welcome to bring them to light. If mother earth can provide a replacement, stellar! If not, then it is up to the possible inductee whether they can live with out this need. Members are free to come and go. I know this lifestyle isn't for everybody, only the willing.

It looks to be a harsh life (at first) but it's entirely doable. But this whole non materialistic view was given to me by the gift of psychedelics, so prior tripping may be a necessity.

 

i'll join!!!!!!! i've been thinking about doing something like this! just tell me when, nd were.

 

Love the enthusiasm! But this is just testing the waters. I want to see if this would be a well liked idea (Hell, even if it wasn't I'd still go)

As I mentioned earlier, I'm studying to be an ethnobotanist and would like to complete that first.

But if you don't mind, what about this community appeals to you, and in what ways would you be able to contribute? Not that contribution is necessary

 

Clordio,

Your original post describes the Rainbow Family rather well. Semi-nomadic, hunter-gatherer (we gather from the dumpsters since that's the "natural resource" available to us), anyone welcome, etc.

Frankly, there is not enough wildland left on this planet to truly sustain tribes from them without settling, and the advent of some kind of agriculture (A-HO FOR FOOD FORESTS!) unless you go somewhere like the rain forest, rather threatened, and the actual tribes that come from there are still there (still over a hundred tribes down there somewhere).

And I must comment on one thing lostminty said... humans have NOT changed genetically since tribal days, only culturally. Creation of new culture is difficult, I can tell you from experience. Our tribe is attempting that, and it is a challenge.

Love and Light,
Joshua

 

I like what I'm seeing about the rainbow community. Could you maybe give me some insights you've attained while being part of the Rainbow Gathering

As for the scarcity of food, I'm not looking to recruit a village. I'm looking for a tribe I suppose. Something manageable on a hunter gather based lifestyle.

If and when the "tribe" gets too large, we can always divide off, sort of like a meiosis reaction, dividing and spreading out. A tribe should never be bigger than what it can sustain

 

hey i think its an awsome idea and i would like to join so do it

if it feels good, do it!!

 

send me an email if you get that set up (or want to send me an email for some other reason). i would love to join, although i would need some education on nomadic living.

roy.a.pradhan@gmail.com