Protest the Holocaust at your local synogogue

maybe a paint pigment? he's giving three possible explanations and isnt able to narrow it down to just one. in other words he isn;t sure what the cause is of a lack blue staining is. germar rudolph on the other hand had his conclusions confirmed by an independent panel of polish chemist who had sat out to debunk his finding. copy pasta of technical information you obbviously are too much of a layman to udnerstand does not defeat any agruements anyone has made. it's pretty clear germar rudolph, who once held a fellowship at the max planck institute has a much higher background in this field of work than either you or i do. and were not tlaking about the majdenek concetration cmap chamber, we're specificly discussing aushwitz #2. i'm quite curious as to how water could make cyanide stains disappear, yet samples from a bath house of all places were remarkably high?

none of this answers the question though as to how the gasses could have refrained from escaping the chamber through the third doorway that was open. which lead to a second room that had crematorium ovens running actuively day and night incinerating dead and diseased bodies. after all, you can't bury a corpse under ground when you have well water drawnm up on the same grounds. as that would be a bad idea for anyone at these camps to drink thatw ater. including camp staff and comandants, i did once ask a science student who is in college. how it could have managed this without catching fire? he said perhaps it bonded with another mol;ecule and changed it's structure? i aksed him what molecule specificly it could have been? his repsonse was "i don't know". in other words we have a speculation what could have happend but we don;t know what it is. until you know what it is, you can't say it did that for sure. am i also to believe a gas chamber with an open door way would have remained gas tight or even hermeticly sealed up? hardly

i don;t see how this guy could say the measurements are meaningless when he's not even duplicated the same experiment conditions to try and rule out this data. nor has he done any field collecting of data himself. which makes his arguement against germar rudolph moot. all hes doing is theorising and speculation, he's not going out and collecting data himself. that's what's funny about all of this, and what are his scientific qualifications versus leuchter's, rudolphs and the panel opf polish chemist who sat out to debunk them? does he have a doctorate degree in chemistry? germar rudolph did until it got revoked. but invoking the name of scientific inquiry without doing any real scientific inquiry himself is laughable. this would be like you or i trying to predict the weather conditions for the upcoming days of this week by guessing. as opposed to meterologists actually collecting data themsleves with computers and doplar radar. do you see he difference here betwene speculating and actually collecting data? it's funny that he could list three possible variables as explanations, without doing any experiments himself to get a solid answer. am i also to believe wooden doors with cracks around the edges would also hold in gasses and keep them from escaping?

the standard holocaust story suggests that the nazis could have immediately yanked bodies out after briefly gassing people without taking hours to air out the room. so as toavoid poisining themsleves in the process. you are aware that cyanide gas can absorb through the skin and poison you correct? why didn;t the nazis just use the railroad delousing chambers for livstock train carts back in hungary that can seal hermeticly and already have cyanide dispensing equipment annd areating equipment and vents already in them? these structures or facilities rather sitll exist to this day in budapest too btw. considering how everyone says the nazis strived for effiency, it seems weird that they'd need to go round hungarian jews up. then turn around take all that time traveling to poland again just to put them to work and then murder them. when it would have saved time to just do it there backn in hungary. should i also believe that holocaust eyewitnesses who had been intended to been gassed also themsleves were niot gassed, yet witnessed others being gassed? or what about nuremberg tribunal claims that adults were gassed along with babies, yet the babeis lived and the adult's did not? lol or what about survivor claims that claim they actually hid from the nazis inside the gas chambers themselves? or what about survivors who claim they survived multiple gassing attempts? i'd think surviving the first exposure to zyklon b would have probably kill them. it's even been shown that execution by such means can be stalled or delayed by holding one;s breath ior even taking shallow breaths. this means it would have even taken longer to kill people than the short 3-5 minutes mainstream hsitorians claim.

it's known that even jean claude pressac admited in his book that 90% of the zyklon b used by the nazis was in fact used for delousing bedding, clothing and matresses. are you also aware that there;s on record a memo that was sent out by himmler actually imploring camp staff to LOWER the amount of deaths of inmates. because of typhus outbreaks occuring. even anne frnak's dad otto recieved treatment for a broken food when he was a camp detained, rather odd for a group of people accused of barbarity and cruelty. but anyways rude, at this rate you might as just start reading some pornogrpahic holocaust dime novels they call stalags. or watch films like golden illsa and when you keep in mind that jews are alway demanding us to repect the memories of the dead and to respect the survivors too. it's hard to take serious when they tun around and make holocaust themed porn films in this day and age. disgusting and the weight of my arguement is this mostly falls back on eyewitness testimony and photos. of emaciated people and bodies, yet they were alive and emaciated, and not just dead and emaciated. health conditions that run consistent with the symptoms of typhus spread by fleas and lice and very damp swmapy conditions. which of course is why the internatiopnal redcross delivered cannisters of zyklon b for.

and on another note, if you';re gonna follow me aorund the forums just to bug me. it really shows how you get a kick out out of baiting people yourself. baiting people with this is not my intentions my intentions is to wonder where there are so many holes in this tale we're told. i used to believe it word for word myself years ago. but now there are reasonable doubts about this. and for good reason, holocaust revisionism is worrying the pwoers that be because it's growing ion popularioty around the world? but let me guess pal, you actually think everybody on earth that questions it is a nazi of some sort? i find your fascination for stalking me and not knowing the difference between your and you are to be troubling. if you can;t even determine the difference between those, how do you ever expect to make heads or tails of scientific technical data you are using against my arguements? nice try though fanatic


i've made several good points right off the top of my head, and you on the other hand have done nothing but copy and paste. and something tells me you haven;t even watched any of those films, something also tells me you lack the patience or attention span to even do so. good try though, you can go back to believing in the tooth fairy or easter bunny or lochness monster. or whatever far fetched things you care to have faith in. and tell me what you think of the fact that mr holocaust himself ellie weisel doesn;t have any identification numbers inked on his arms means?we're tlaking about a guy here who claims he was walking in nyc one time and reading emmanuel kant and then got struck by a taxi door and flew an entire block. the same guy who lied to pbs about the 761st tank division';s location. which in turn lead to pbs not airing his "documentary" at all. this whole story is unravelling wether you care to admit it or not.

 

"He" is a man made Deity like many before and after him, that being said whats your point?

Do you believe in it's existence or something?

If not maybe you should lay off the jews and focus more on the coruppting effects politically and socialy of religion in general, not just one mad made totaltarian dictator in the sky that proclaims (like all the rest) that he has the answers and the others are just bullshitting you.

i mean that is what your getting at right?

If not your comeing off as a huge Jew baiter, for what purpose? who knows?

Perhaps hiding an agenda of some sort...?

 

I believe I should have narrowed down my previous link so it would be easier to understnad the point about the Zklon B prusian blue flim flam Holocast deniers proposed,

Zklon B was used to gass countless people and prepare them for mass graves, the same Chemical in a much larger dose was also used to delouse the clothing of the by then vermin riddled prisoners so the fresh load of prisoners could wear the same rags as they waited to die., as an ironic twist of fate Lice and Ticks hiding in clothing required much more fumegation to exterminate, this lead to chambers covered in prusion blue. They were the delousing chambers, the actual chambers used to gass the political prisoners used a lesser amount achived then same results but as a side effect left less of a blueish coating in the murder cells, while the websites you link to attempt to say the delousing chambers were the death chambers.

You do realize that it was a concentration camp on par with a german military base right, to help you understand that, they weren't exactly burying the corpses around there water wells, they had lots of territory to work with.

Blatant white noise, refrain from being so verbose if you want a serious discussion.

Again with that many bodies crammed into the gas chamber and the amount of poision being subsatially less than it was in the delousing rooms the amoutn of time to prepare the room was not only much faster than in the delousing stations but required less precaution, as was stated the prusion blue was from the delousing of clothing not the liqudation of people.

In order to have the operation run like that basically an entire base would need to be dedicated to the railroad they used for transport, it could have been done much more effectivly on better protected military prison like Auchwitz.

Ever here of freedom of speech?

Do you suport it?

Who cares, some people get off on that type of shit, your basically trying to base the morality of an entire group of people whether they be good shits or bad shits on what one pornographer which I'm assuming by your including him
may claim jewish, I just need to ask, seriously?

And don't forget to include they were in a death camp because they were suspected of having Jewish parents or they themselves admitted to being Jewish.

White noise.

What can I say, you leave inflamitory comments and I feel the want to respond to them, do i care if you don't like me responding to them, not at all, this is a public forum.

There are holes in the theory of gravity and motion because %100 certainy is a myth, but what would be more likely in your mind?

No just wanting to hold an unpopular opinion because it makes them feel like an underdog of some sort, or maybe just for shock value, however as time goes on I would assume they would truly begin to believe in there own dellusions and as such become paranoid racists maybe without even realizing it.

Read some of your posts man, your the last person who should be trying to correct someones grammar give it up.

Tell me what i can;t do again?

You have made zero points that discredits the holocaust, where do you even get this shit from?

White noise.

White noise, you accuse me of cut and paste while you simply dance around in a semi coherent rant that makes zero direct points, it makes me wonder if you even watch those holocaust denile films you constantly link.

 

i've made far more points than you have mr copy pasta. no blue stains=no gas chambers get over it already retard. go play video games or something and quit trying to sound intellectual. the article you sited is based upon theorization and not data collecting. see the difference? and besides, how can you trash my view without weighing anything i've provided to you to support my claims? how do gas chambers operate with an open doorway anyways? explain this smart guy. go ahead mr enginer, explain to me how something could be hermeticly sealed with an open doorway? have you even seen any of photos of the room in question? there's two closed doors on it and one open doorway? that's suipposed to be a gas chamber? how does cyanide not leake out of it and catch fire when coming in contact with ovens? how is this possibl;e? stop ignoring them and answer already, either answer or go away troll. people who crack jokes about molsting kids have no right to criticise any type of historical revisionism. would you like to explain the discreopencies as to how the folks at the aushwiutz museum could lower the body count, yet the magical six million number still remains? from 3 million down to one and a half million? or why they;ve never found any skeletal remains below the soil or any soil disturbances via electromagnetic scanning equipment? why were no giant mountains of ashes ever found either? you yourself dance around a lot of points people make too. watch the one third of the holocaust films and then decvide for yourself. mr ten minute attention span adhd dude.

here is what an actual gas chamber looks like


notice the hermetic seals and flawless design? i'm to believe germans wouldn';t have had gas chambers made to the same standards as america at the time? by saying otherwise, you're denying germany's long list of enginers and scientists and inventors they have to their credit.

 

your typo's are hillarious.

The stains were from the delousing chambers not the gas chambers that were used to murder civilians, as I allready explained to you.

Who said I was trying to sound intellectual, I am after all argueing with some one who denies the Holocaust ever happened.

Incorrect, what agenda are you trying to give credence to?

Again you mistake delousing chambers for the murder boxes.

What a maroon.

Are you suggesting that the gas chambers and the ovens were in the same building?

Built right next to one another?

Actually yes they do.

You realize there was more than one concentration camp correct?

You realize not all civilians were murdered in a concentration correct?

Lets say it was only half a million, would that not be enough death and murder for you?

Again wat is your true agenda, stop being such a coward and just say what really is on your mind.

The words mass grave must not be part of your vocabulary.

The fillm you linked to was idiotic propoganda, meant to be watched by fools like yourself.

What chambers did the american have for the mass gassing of civilians at the time to compare the two designs?

You realize there were soldiers in chem suits operation the gassing chambers right?

It wasn't like an american prison system gassing, seriosly your grasping at straws and look quite ridicules in your attempts to make appologies for mass murdering lunatics.

so your closing arguement is what?

There was no concentration camps, there were no mass graves, there was no final solution?

What are you defending?

 

actually yes, the supposed homocidal gas chambetr at aushwitz is located next to where the ovens are and goes that way via an open doorway. if you have ebver bothered to look at phoptosd of that area you'd know this retard. all you're doing is mocking and trolling. you haven';t proved anything.
what mass graves? they;ve never discovered any, everytime they;ve ran electromagnetic scvanning equipment over suspected mass graves they';ve found squat. what is so hard for your thick headed ass to understand here kid? when have i ever said there was no concentration camps? not a single revisionist has ever agrued this. why do you feel the need to mischaracterise or put words into mouths that were never said? fact is no forensic evidence has been found to verify this. wishing it is as you were told it is doesn';t make it so. there's no photogrpahs of any being gassed either, nor did the international redcross note any widespread signs of neglect or absue during their monthly visit to every camp. so tell me why the redcross would have went out of their way to protect the germans?

http://www.fpp.co.uk/Auschwitz/Treblinka/IHRJ191000.html



so i guess electromagnetic ground scanners used for archealogical pourposes equipment are holocaust deniers too? you really can;t formulate any arguement worth a shit kid. go back to playing video games and having a simple mind. stay out of this discussion. i have no agenda other than to look at history beyond it's face value. what is YOUR agenda with all the trolling you do? it's not the staining in delousing chambers that is the issue here kid, it's the lack of blue stains in an alleged homicidal gassing chamber at issue here. stop twisting words around already

what makes you so sure piles of emaciate dbodies equals genoicide anyways? probably because it's been spoonfed to you since gradeschool. you know not the first thiong about critical thionking, you just go with whatever you were told. it's just too bad that wasn;t good enough to continuen your career in the military . what's it like to have not been able to hack it? tell us again how you killed innocent civlians, before you go around accusing others of murder.
and how are you of all people going to call mr leuchter, and actual enginer who has built and designed gas chambers for the american prison systems a liar? fact is these concentration cmaps were prisons, so why wouldn;t it have been like prison gas chambers? seriously, go get an mri and check that wound on your head that was made when you were probably dropped as a child.

 

It's perfectly OK when people stage demonstrations at their local Roman Catholic churches (or at RCC religious conventions, etc.) as a method of protesting against the sexual abuse which is said to be occurring in the RCC priesthood. It is also perfectly OK to attack the religion of Islam and to call for the banning of Islamic religious texts (in fact, there's even a thread in this forum that's devoted to the idea of banning the Koran) ... and so, in light of all this, it's hard to fathom WHY it shouldn't be OK if people want to stage demonstrations at their local synogogues as a method of protesting against the evil Jewish deity who is seeking to exterminate the entire population of the planet earth that isn't Jewish.

I don't believe in the Jewish deity, but there are lots of people who DO believe in him. It is their perfect right to believe in him, as long as they don't put his commandments into action. I am referring specifically to those biblical commandments which call for the extermination of human beings.

 

The real holocaust took place in the Soviet Union during the 1930s and 40s, under the bloody reign of "uncle Joe" Stalin.

The mass murder of "goyim" in Japan was also a Holocaust of the first magnitude.

Dresden was a holocaust.

Iraq is an on-going holocaust.

Iran is a pending holocaust.

 

Have you ever stopped to consider who's behind the relentless lobby effort that's pushing for military action against the innocent nation of Iran ?

Hint: It's the same group that lobbied to get us into Iraq.

 

rudenoodle is obviously a secular dolt who find no value in god, let alone religion. i just wonder what his motives are for bashing only two of three middle eastern religions?

 

I find all religion to be equally absurd, however I do find some to be more inherently dangerous than others.

As for the worshippers of said religions I find more often than not in discussion with them that they are not ardent followers of the religious doctrine for there particualr cult, and have often simply plagerized large amounts of it's texts while discrediting certain passages that don't fit into there were view.

So by saying that I only "bash" two of the three momotheisms is just more slander on your part.

Typical.

 

During WW2 who had more penchant for dumping large quanities of bodies into pits near concentration camps?

You don't, and the question is irelevent to the conversation, again you are obsessed with my military record in a thread about the holocaust get over it already.

Why would I care if you believed I was in the military or not, I've seen no paperwork showing your grandfather was in WW2, seriously why bring it up?

You consider any statement that doesen't conform with your world view to be simply trolling, classic case of an internet fascist. (My favorite kind of fascist )

I have never attacked anyone on Hipforums, again you resort to slander and lies, continue please.

While you on the otherhand have been given secret Nazi papers and archaic reports from the Kremlin to let you in on information and truth no one else is able to access or will agknowlege in the joo run media.

And linking holocaust denile websites.

Is Holohugger a legal word to use in Scrabble?

With enough combustable liquid a big enough pit and propper ventilation human dodies will burn.

The Nazi's had both in spades.

Human flat burn incrediably hot and tanatiously, you can see evidence of this in most car crash photos or house fires, in your tiny brain you must have been imagining a lean steak with some gasoline splashed on it.

In your next experiment use a whole hog and watch the diffrence.

Biology 101, the human body is made mostly of water...

You can't tell someones religion from a DNA test, wow...

So just because I don't believe a single line of what you say means I must believe everything I'm told about the holocaust from other sources?

Your train of thought ran out of coal long ago.

Again you expose your ignorance as to what Nazi ideaology actually is.

Do you know that feeling you get when you go over a hill going about 80 or 90 and there is a tingly feeling in your stomach?

Sorta like that but with an after taste of chicken.

Problaly not all, but I'm guessing you could make a link between quite a few.

The videos wer enot on the one third website, again why not link to the actual website you want people to see?

http://www.holocaustdenialvideos.com/

Why hide it?

Again, not all but the most prominent and dogmatic do.

So to go on record you are stating that no one was gassed during the holocaust?

And that being said what do you think the death toll at the camps actually was more close to?

 

Is there a significant difference between Nazi ideology and Jewish ideology ?

Judaism (as outlined in the body of sacred Jewish writings) teaches that Jews are the favorites of the God, and that Jews have a right to exterminate non-Jews with impunity.

Nazism is pretty much a carbon copy of Judaism !

Hitler had some Jews and some partial-Jews in his high command. Is this a mere coincidence ? http://www.ezania.net/library/articles/hitlersjews/id53.htm

I've seen reports that Hitler was financed by international Jewish bankers such as Warburg and others, who were seeking to create a 'devil incarnate' against whom they could wage war ... or perhaps it would be more accurate to say that the bankers were seeking to create a 'devil incarnate' against whom they could incite a world war in which millions of "goyim" would perish. And boy did it work ! Here then, is how war-inducing propaganda works: first you'll have to create a 'boogey man' in the newsmedia, and then you'll have to disseminate your propaganda by any and by all means available. The next thing you'll have to do is to employ your influence in the government, and so you lobby the government. You lobby the government RUTHLESSLY and you do it RELENTLESSLY until you're finally able to achieve your end-goal, which is to mobilize a military response against the target nation of your choosing. The intention here is to create an all-out war against the boogey man that you've created, but first you'll have to create a 'heavy' or a 'bad guy' in the newsmedia that you own and control; after that, your next move in the chess game is to incite military violence against the 'bad guy' that you've created. This is the time-proven recipe for inciting wars. It worked in the case of Adolf Hitler, it worked in the case of Manuel Noriega, it worked in the case of Sadaam Hussein, and it worked in the case of Osama bin Laden. "The history book on the shelf, is always repeating itself." It isn't very hard to incite mega-death and war PROVIDING that you have the financial wherewithal of an international banker, but it's the DESIRE to create war in the first place that stands in need of being explained. Where does the desire to create war come from ? IMO, the desire to create war is inculcated by the religion of the international bankers, and this happens to be none other than the religion of Judaism. Nazism was simply a clever ploy for creating a Jewish state in Palestine. An army of clueless "goyim" was sent into Europe, and - later on - into the besieged nation of Germany. Germany was laid to waste, and millions of "goyim" were massacred on all sides. Jews were sent into Palestine, and a brand new Jewish state was established in the Middle East.

 

jewish is also often considered an ethnicity. how do you know those mass graves in the ukraine weren;t created by the soviets? where have you once openly criticised judaism? and still no forensic evidence for homicidal gassings anyone who says woodstock never happened obviously has little room to call holocaust revisionists nutters

in fact modern genetic science does in fact verify there is a such thing as being ethnicly jewish

http://www.redorbit.com/news/health...mon_genetic_thread/index.html?source=r_health

 

yes, and the fact that there were jewish nazis during world war 2 indeed contradicts the idea the nazis had intent to kill every last one of them

 

show one thread or post where you openly criticise judaism or it's followers.

 

http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?t=369179&page=46