hmmm... nope. Not protesting against mental hospitals. I've been in a couple and they helped me a lot.
I strongly disagree. I live in a town where they let homeless mentally ill people walk around. They also just piss all over themselves, they attack other people, they are dirty, and i think that in a mental hospital they could be bathed, and helped. So despite the fact I've been drinking I still have my right to say, I understand, but you're wrong.
as much as i'm against taking my meds i wouldn't protest mental hospitals because they use that as there main form of rehabilitiation.
Well, I can see both sides... They turned a friend of mine into an instant homeless person overnight by keeping her in for observation for two months. She wasn't aware that they could do that if you 'accept medication' on a 302. She didn't have anyone to handle her business for her. Hell, I didn't even know she was in there.. She said everyone is very sedate, zombie like. Lots of depakote being given out. They don't like it if you get the other patients excitable.. They put her on depakote, her hair fell out, & she gained lots of weight. The whole thing sucked.
I don't know much about mental hospitals. Please, tell me how you propose to treat mentally ill people if it isn't in a mental hospital?
so what do you think we should do with all these people let them hurt themselves or others.think before you speak
I think maybe not protest, but some effort towards making them better institutions might be a smarter aim. Whether that's research to educate on the problems with the system, raising funds...ect.
Well... hospitalization isn't always needed. People can get help via councelling at daily, weekly, bi-weekly or monthly therapy sessions. Not all mental illnesses require full time hospitalization, or medication for that matter. And it is possiable to spend time in the hospital without being medicated. But for some people, some illnesses, it is the best option. For myself, I needed round the clock help, and I got it.
Knowing that money makes the world go 'round...Looking at things with a critical eye... Wouldn't you say that doctors, psychologists, psychiatrists, and the like have a vested interest in keeping people in treatment...In treatment, & on psychiatric drugs? Not that it would happen in all cases..
I honestly don't think that. I think that the doctors, etc. are actually wanting people to get better. Its not like there is a shortage of crazy people about, eh? Not like they are going to run out of people wanting help. Also, there are enough people who WANT to take the drugs (simplest cures are ALWAYS the best, right?) that they don't need to keep medicating people who don't want them anymore. Also, where I live, mental health treatments are covered by the government...just like medical health treatments. And I don't think a lot of doctors go around doing heart surgery on people who don't need it just because they want the money, right? All the docs I know are really great people. They are really invested in helping people get better. They listen to your wants and needs.. and if your wants aren't in your best interest, they discuss that with you. I've never heard of someone being FORCED to take meds past a certain intital point in their treatment.
We're not talkin' heart surgery. If they are getting money from your insurance or the government...Keeping you in treatment is the better financial option for them. Vested interest.
I'm postive there are many good people in practice. But I seriously doubt they all are. That's all I'm saying, greed is a nasty thing.
Sweets, for every person who gets better there are 15 more awaiting treatment. I am no longer in treatment. I quit with my docs approval. In fact, she said that I was ready to quit before I could admit it to myself. I was also only briefly on prescribed meds... again, my doctor's suggestion that I quit them. She was right both times. So.. No. I don't think that all docs want to keep you in treatment for the money. Again, I think that they honestly want people to get better. And yes, some mental problems are as serious as a heart attack... so the metaphor fits. By your logic, why do medical hospitals let people out? Can't they just continue to make shit up thats wrong with you? I mean, they are getting insurance money or government money too, right?
I did not say ALL. You have twisted my logic. Completely misunderstood, it's very naive to think that all humans are decent non money grubbing angels.I have known peop[le that have been in out patient treatment for years, & years. Just switching chemicals around, & going through a vicious cycle. It happens.
ok... sure... maybe there are SOME doctors SOME where who keep their patients in mental chains to make a few bucks. But can't the same be said for every profession? Personally though, I've never seen it happen. Maybe the people you know who are in out-patient treatment for years and years just need a lot of help? How can you judge their progress or treatment unless you are a doc yourself and have been sitting in on their treatment sessions since day one? My cousin lives in a hospital, but he isn't their because the docs are greedy.. he is there because he tends to hurt himself and others, and he needs to be monitored constantly to ensure that he remembers his meds. They have tried repeatedly to get him into a half-way house, but he can't handle it and always has a "break".
I never said there are people that don't need serious help. I have noticed a trend in this country where there's a fucking pill for everything. Greedy pharmacuetical companies making everything a damned disease.. I'm glad you've seen the good side. I have not. I see people getting strung out on fucked up synthetic drugs more and more. PPL that didn't have a seisure disorder, or schizophrenia, bi-polar..ect. Look, you and I are going to have to agree to disagree, you have made some good points. I still think there are two sides to it...and lot's of gray area.
