protein (I know, I know) question

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  1. homeschoolmama

    homeschoolmama Senior Member

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    I know you're all tired of the same questions about "where can I find veggie protein" and such. But I'm truly stuck here & wondering if anyone can take a peek at this & make a suggestion or two? My diet is fairly well balanced in everything BUT the protein area, and no matter what I do I find myself at the end of the day nowhere near where I *should* be.

    My daily goals are:
    1350-1700 calories
    180-260g (I aim for 200-225) carbs
    36-62g fat
    and 60-140g (I'd be happy if I could REACH 60!) of protein.

    And this is my "menu" for today.

    Breakfast was Rice & Shine hot cereal with soymilk & 1/2 cup of baked apples.
    295 calories
    52g carbs
    5g fat
    11g protein

    Lunch is going to be veggie sticks with a sour-cream & herb dip, tostitos corn chips & hummus, and 1/2 of a large pear.
    399 calories
    53g carbs
    18g fat
    9g protein

    Dinner is going to be a "stuffed biscuit" kind of meal, and I'm working on how to approximate the nutritional info for that. It will be ABOUT 4-500 calories, 50-60 carbs & no more than a dozen grams of fat & protein though.

    Snacks for today will be fresh strawberries and a peanut-butter bar.
    156 calories
    31g carbs
    4g fat
    3g protein

    Now I can always just finish off the day with a cup of soymilk... and I've done that dozens of times to boost my protein intake. But I'd really like to find a better way to do it since I've just never really been fond of drinking tons of milk! Does anyone have any suggestions? This is a rather typical day for me so ANY ideas would be very much appreciated!
    love,
    mom
     
  2. hummblebee

    hummblebee hipstertist.

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    Ever since we moved to the south, a favorite protein-rich meal for me has been beans and rice. I usually do blackeyed peas, or black beans, or both... and cook brown rice and sometimes cornbread. It's inexpensive and between the beans and whole grains there's a LOT of protein there. :) Not sure on exact quantities... I haven't been into measuring such things in a very long time.

    Nuts, and nut butters are a great snack-ey protein boost (but you know that!)
    You might also take your veggie snacks into consideration; I'm a weirdo but sometimes I snack on spinach or broccoli a lot... I like the taste, and it's so nutrient-rich you get a lot for it. :)
     
  3. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    homeschoolmama,

    If I measured stuff out like you do, I think my head would fall off. It should never have come to this. I eat by instinct. Purely by instinct, and do very well.

    Protein requirements in the west are a farce. Mainly because "they" want you to work hard in making money for "them". Too much protein is just as bad as not enough. General rule of thumb is if you're working hard physically, eat more protein. And when you're not, slack off.

    Soups made from beans are always good. Lentils are a personal favorite. I eat soy based products like veggie burgers or granulated TVP about 2-3 times a week.

    I run like a well balanced engine.



    x
     
  4. drumminmama

    drumminmama Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    peanut sauce on roasted veggies.
    Whole grains, slip the nuts and seeds everywhere.

    I had to temporarily up my protein while sick, and a peanut butter sandwich added daily, or hummus, did the trick.
    Up your water, too, though.
     
  5. Mouse47

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    See if you can find a copy of the book "Diet for a Small Planet" by Frances Moore Lappe. This book goes into great detail about getting more/enough protein from vegetarian food, and how proteins can complement each other when foods are combined.
     
  6. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    Would you believe I don't drink water? None. Since about 1979.

    Only if there's nothing else available and I'm dehydrating.


    x
     
  7. homeschoolmama

    homeschoolmama Senior Member

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    I ended up tossing a handful of sunflower seeds into the hummus for lunch. After coming up with a FAIRLY accurate equivalent for our dinner, I realized I could do something like that & still keep all my "ducks in a row" for the day. When all was said & done, I still came up with 43g of protein for the day. I'd heard a few places that vegetarians should aim for 60-ish... have I been listening to the wrong people on this one?

    Xexon, I wouldn't be charting things quite this closely... but I need to lose weight and listing everything is the easiest way to "keep myself honest" as far as diet. And since I'm doing it anyway, I'm letting the computer keep track of a few nutrients I know I don't always get enough of.

    Beans & brown rice are on my plate about 5x per week. Black beans, white beans, garbanzo beans, lentils, soy... but I do try to eat other things at least a FEW times each week ;) But yeah, it's on the days that I skip my beans that I tend to be low. (sigh) Maybe I should've had an almond muffin instead of that cereal for breakfast!
    love,
    mom
     
  8. plastic bagism

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    Are you vegan? If not, try drinking a fruit smoothie with whey protein everyday. Whey is an excellent source, and a scoop generally gives you about 20 grams of protein. If you're vegan, you can still use powders derived from rice, hemp, or soy; they usually give you about half that amount. It's a really easy way to meet your protein needs and you can usually play around with your blender and find some yummy smoothie recipes. Aside from that, I'd recommend cereal fortified with protein. Kashi Crunch is my fav. A bowl of that with 1/2 cup of soy milk in the morning will get you started with about 15 grams of protein. Quinoa is also a great source. Mixing about 1/4 a cup of Quinoa with 1/2 beans will get you in between 10-20 grams. Try adding a little TVP to get even more.

    Have you read Diet For a Small Planet? It's a book from the 80s filled with easy recipes that combine various incomplete proteins.
     
  9. itsamagicallife

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    I read Diet For A Small Planet when I first became a vegetarian in 1973. It was first published in 1971.
     
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  11. Carlfloydfan

    Carlfloydfan Travel lover

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    seems like you need lots more fruits...and more veggies.

    As for the protien, black beans, patatoes, eggs, nuts, (brown) rice...
     
  12. zilla939

    zilla939 Thought Police Lifetime Supporter

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    protein is the most important part of your diet. there are 8 essential amino acids, all of which are contained in soybeans. another winning combination is corn and beans - each contains four of the essentials. soy comes in so many forms... switch up tofu, miso, tempeh, edamame... eggplant and squash are awesome as well.
     
  13. drumminmama

    drumminmama Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    yeah, you have humidity.
    I don't.
    I collapsed in Moab a couple years ago.
    I take water very seriously.
    I also don't drink juices or teas very much, I don't consume alcohol, and I am stopping sodas.
    Water is my option.
     
  14. drumminmama

    drumminmama Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    on diet for a small planet: Lappe rewrote it in the 80s to make up or her food combining, all based on her assumption of the time (first several editions) that eggs were a perfect protein.
    So, it's a good primer, (and mama, I think you have read this one, yeah?) but not the end all be all.
    I would not say it's a good ONLY book, given the amount of information available now.

    Mama, I think that if the protein helps you feel less hungry, then add some, but 40-50 is probably a good range for your lifestyle.
    I suggest high protein breakfast, as that can get you through wore satisfied than with carbs, even unrefined ones.

    That said, I'm trying the Skinny B**** theory of fresh fruit for breakfast.
    I stay lower on the protein side unless I'm sick, or it is really cold (satisfaction/ comfort levels) to help my damaged kidneys.
    I figure I should eat a diet that is also kind to them.
     
  15. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    I've been to Moab. Interesting place. Woke up that morning to a hot air balloon slowly drifting across the valley as the rising sun was launching laser beams through the mist.

    It was also the first time I ever had sticker shock over a motel room.


    x
     
  16. plastic bagism

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    Xenon, what do you drink instead of water? I would feel like crap if I didn't drink enough everyday, and I live in the humid south.
     
  17. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    Lots of juices and juice drinks. I've got some Jones sodas in the fridge too. I also have red wine before supper every day. Chocolate milk for breakfast as I don't drink coffee.

    If I'm in the desert or biking alot, lots of sport drinks like Gatoraid.

    x
     
  18. zilla939

    zilla939 Thought Police Lifetime Supporter

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    ^^couldn't do that. i hate sports drinks. i drink tons of water and hot tea. though i'll admit i love beer and wine.
     
  19. homeschoolmama

    homeschoolmama Senior Member

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    Thanks everyone :) I'll definitely have to look into some proteins for breakfast but I think I'll stop worrying in general.

    I drink a lot of tea too... and not nearly as much water as I ought to ;)
    love,
    mom
     
  20. drumminmama

    drumminmama Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    you don't drink water but you drink high fructose corn syrup with water added, huh?
     

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