Hello all, I bought a .01 g scale the other day to way up my 2ce. I figured I could get it to weigh .02 and just split it for 10 mg doses. Problem is the lowest it will read is .03 and Im not sure if its accurate. Anyway I was wondering if anyone else had different ways of measuring their 2ce. Maybe like it's roughly the same size as a 1/8 tsp measuring spoon, or something along those lines. Thanks :2thumbsup:
Roughly maybe, roughly maybe not. I have weighed powders and found an identical substance can have varying weights and volumes ... imagine one cup of unsifted flour, and one cup of sifted flour, and another cup with either sifted or unsifted flour, but is left in an humid area and absorbs some water vapour. You can probably guess which cup will weigh the most, and why, and that these factors are only some, that effect your measurements. So, to round-up and make things 'simpler' lets go with a liquid volume division equation. Put one gram of substance in 50ml everclear (in this case, 2c-e, and 50ml is the size of an airline-shot-glass bottle). Shake and not stir. Once the substance is dissolved in the liquid, you now have 20mg for every ml of fluid (20mg * 50ml = 1000mg = 1gm). Use a graduated glass eyedropper to draw up this liquid, and, place it on, lets say cookies in this case... No graduated dropper? Ok, lets make one. Find a teaspoon measure scoop. NO, not the spoons in your kitchen you eat cereal with, but the little tiny things your mom uses to cook your birthday cake. 5ml in one tsp. Maybe you can find a 1/2 or 1/4 tsp scoop and this could be easier. draw up fluid in the dropper enough times that you can on average find, mark, and know the level on your dropper that is equivelent to say 1ml, or whatever meter mark you want to make. But hey, all this, I've typed before in this forum, and I know other people have also typed this same answer out in verbatim for others more than once too.... So, for anyone with any questions on this matter - please, read or search the forum for already existing threads on the subject instead of just lazily repeating a question that has been asked and answered many times. You're welcome.
you can weigh out 40 mgs and then cut that in half by eyeballing and you should have a good dose. Maybe you can place something on top of the scale that weighs over 30 mgs and place the 2ce on top of that, then detract 10 mgs at a time I don't know how accurate that will be though.
weigh 6 at .3...=1.8.you have .2 left...if it looks like its about 2/3's of the other piles[6]you have an accurate scale and you know what a.2 looks like...you could repeat this by more math equations and divide it all up but an experienced person would spread out 10 equallish doses pdq the cup of flour thing is not really relevant with a miniscule amount ...or is it me lol
You need a miligram scale to dose stuff that's active at less than .02g, otherwise you're just guessing.
yes, it's still relevant. with flour...it might be a few grams difference. with a minuscule amount of 2ce for example, 5 mg difference can make A LOT of difference
You could get accurate liquid measurment gear, and do it that way. Simply fully dissolve your known amount of chemical in a known amount of solvent (not an amount right on the brink of saturation, to make sure it's all in solution and evenly distributed) and then divide that amount by 1000 per gram, and multiply out for mg's, and dose that. I don't know what the best fluid for that is, though. If you do it with a pure solvent that will fully evaporate, you could also evaporate off different doses and check them on your scale, to see how close it is. Also, what you use obviously needs to be safe for ingestion, OR fully evaporate with no residue. And not react with your chemical.
look...its fucking drugs...not anthrax.......my math was off...i do take the drugs i discuss lol....ok..my point was this... he said he can weigh down to .03....he also said he wants to check accuracy.this absolutely can be done by weighing out 6x .03 doses...he will be left with a slightly smaller pile at the end ONLY IF THE SCALE IS ACCURATE...if the 7th pile isnt 2/3 of all the other piles..if it is bigger or smaller...or he doesnt even get a 7th pile?then the fuckin scale is not accurate...i was only trying to help ...sheesh
Exactly my real case scenario... After being experienced enough to eyeball 2c-b from a batch bag, I was attempting the SAME THING with 2c-e from another batch ... making eyeballed and meterably identical 'size' piles (volumetricaly). However, when these volumetrically metered piles were put to a weight balance, the 2c-e was always of less mass than the 2c-b. The 2c-e was relatively the 'sifted flour' of the zombie-dusts although both were puro flour. YMMV. :afro:
^^seems like the "safer" scenario..with 2ce being more fluffy than 2cb. the other way around and you'd potentially dose too high on 2ce, rather than too low. i'd still suggest that everyone weigh their doses though
If you have some leftover cash. save it up to get scale of dealextreme or something. I got mine off there and it seems pretty accurate. costed me around $20
It doesn't cost much and if you don't get a "bad egg" then its good. I have heard of people getting bad ones. I have had two both were good. Put a search term like "milligram scale" into ebay and you can pay with paypal 16 bucks. Get the one in this picture. The only bad part is it takes about 45 days to the states.
Yeah get a fucking milligram scale. When you experimenting with things like 2ce and other RCs it is best to be as accurate while dosing as possible
He did, it just sucks. A lot of cheap (or expensive, but SHOULD be cheap) headshop scales read mg, but they're not so accurate, like you may need a base weight of 10-20mg before it reads anything, and it will show up all at once. Then after that, it will be accurate to within a few mg. Just for example. It's good for weed or something, you can be thousands of times more accurate than most people expect, but it's obviously bad for potent psychedelics. When JWH was legal, and I was involved in a "spice" making endeavour, one idea was to make blotter, but that idea died on the vine because of the inability to weigh mg accuratly because of one of these shitty scales, and because of an unwillingness to make a massive batch of blotter with a chemical that it might not even work for shit with, or where the oral dose seemed on the borderline of what we could fit on a tab.
