Is not the privilege of attending a private school a luxury? I believe it is. If this is the case shouldn't people who have the ability to access these elite institutions put up and contribute fully to the society they live in. Allowing charitable status begins to highlight the invisible wall that maintains the status quo. The idea that they open the doors to the unprivileged is just nonsense and at best a token gesture to justify such a ludicrous ruling. You always need people to empty your bins and clean your toilets; give them an education and they begin to question their situation. But then when it’s the policy makers who enjoy such luxuries you can't help but feel cynical, paranoid even. They're never going to make their own situation more difficult.
Anarchy seems a stupid idea? In truth I wouldn't care to live in such a world but when you have the system's fist and arm shoved right up your arse you cant help feel that there has to be a better way of leading your life. At least an anarchic state would redress the balance for us at the bottom.
I went to a private school, but I believe they should be abolished as they are socially divisive. Instead we could then concentrate on raising standards in the public sector so that everyone can have a good education.
Hmmmm in a way i wish i went to a private school cos then id have a decent education. But this was i get my friends and to see what society is really like etc.
Private schools and the bullshit that is BRitain absolutely makes my skin crawl. The fucking places even have "charitable" status. These places make Britain an absolute fucking banana republic- turn on the television every fucking banker , businessman , judge , politician , doctor , fucking everything virtually is run by priveliged , unintelligence , disdainful private school twats. I actually went to a university full of these upper class clowns and thought " ah now its the modern era , maybe things will be different" But no , after university the ones with rich mummies and daddies and private school connections all got the top jobs easy ( The CIty , barristers , foreign office etc)( even if they had rubbish degrees) but the better qualified state school ones generally got absolute shite jobs like Mcdonalds. Maybe it would be wrong for me to treat all private school people the same but I see it this way.( If theyre fair with me , Id be fair with them) 6 percent of the population went to private schools - to get good exams even if theyre stupid , so I'd allocate 6 percent of jobs Id hand out for private school types. Any toff want a job cleaning toilets? All other positions already filled by state school applicatants
Shouldn't schooling of children be exempt from VAT just in principle, so what if the well off are the majority beneficieries it doesn't change the principle really. Jobs are allocated on a who you know basis, changing the funding of schools wont change the situation regarding family influence, and tbh I don't really believe the statement, no-one running a business really wants to employ someone incapable of doing the job, they will find it a little counter productive.
My state school reckons it's a private school in disguise. Tonight's commemoration evening, for example. Right posh 'do' that was, headteacher in robes, big band playing, lots of boasting baout all the new building work, lot of boasting in general... Grrr, which the bloody head would get off his high horse and admit Knights Templar is a comprhensive!
Dapablo I take it you went to a private school then? Or do you honestly believe that the only remotely intelligent people in Britain were private school toffs whos parents had to spend 30 k a year to pass their GCSEs? 100 years ago after Britain robbed the 3rd world blind , it was the richest country in the world.Now I find it amusing that its being overtaken by places like Taiwan - devoid of the trashy crony Capitalism of Britain. Personally I believe in the laws of Karma.One day the toff who hates recruiting anyone without a plum in the mouth winds up with his heart surgeon being a doddery upper class twit , or gets robbed at gunpoint by a bloke from a crap school in the East End who couldve been an Einstein if hed had a proper education. Even sewer rats like Murdoch admit life chances for social classes in Britain are more rigged than a Bush election. I can accept differences in income , but pure greed based on class hatred is something pretty unseemly IMO. No wonder so many people use guns to get things nowadays.
Funny that but I was schooled at Dagenham Priory Comprehensive, in the heart of one of the largest council estates of europe, built to furnish the factories of east london with the necessary labour. I've always considered myself, and am sometimes accused of being, a socialist. In my youth going to university was never really considered a reality, I now sit here with a son of mine doing exactly that, and though of adequate intelligence is not einstein and tbh the reality is he don't need to be. Getting employment usually has a lot to do with self presentation, and if I may be brutally frank, your demeanor on this page would make me wary of employing you, maybe something to consider in your search for work when you've finished at Macs. Tirades against the well to do I'm sure impresses some of the ladies but after hearing similar inaffective words before I find just hateful without purpose I suppose, don't assume because you hate them that the emotion is reciprocated, not a good place to go in my opinion. Try not to trust Murdoch maybe, he's been known to be a little conservative with the truth. Public schools are an anachronism but I honestly don't believe destruction for destructions sake is never a sensible solution to any perceived problem.
Ooooooooooo.( tosses head back and puts hands in the air) Firstly I notice you completely ignore the question I ask you -because ofcourse you have no answer. Second , I'm not actually living in a tent in on a commune , sorry to disappoint you. I actually run to of my own 2 businesses which turn over a nice enough profit thankyou very much , not that its really relevant to the issues. I keep my "tirades" as you put it for twits , not people with money. PS So dont worry I wont be asking you for a job. ( so I wont need to buy a bow tie , cravatte , have elocution lessons, or do anything else for my "presentation skills" ). I'll let you get back to reading the Sun and Daily Torygraph , or should I say watching Eliza Dolittle?
"All I want is a room somewhere, far away from the cold night air, with an enormous chair, wouldn't it be luverly, luverly, luverly." hmm perhaps she should of stayed a pro then, know her place maybe, not quite sure what you've got against Eliza really. Sorry mate but what question, and apologies for underestimating your own achievements, but it was you who indicated the difficulty in securing employment after uni. I'm not an employer but a wage slave myself. I'll come out with the occasional "Eat the rich" but at the same time will also find myself protesting about hate posts. So what really would you like to see done to make Britain a better place in your eyes, apart from "up against the wall" that is ?
Think we went down the wrong path abit there : ) I hope your kid gets the job he deserves , but I think thatll be down to what sort of job he wants - ie whether hes gonna be competing with people who have connections , plum in the mouth , rich parents etc. The simple solution to a lot of Britains problems would be for the majority to just become aware of the scams that are being inflicted on them. Boycotting newspapers and television channels that twist the truth. Better still set up cooperative or union , or foreign financed media. Boycott companies/people that are run by toffs , are for the benefit of toffs , or have recruitment in favour of toffs. Ask their MP to back a confirmation of the European HR law that it is illegal to discriminate on class or creed. Hit toffs in the pocket and theyll start to squirm. Portray Britain as a Victorian laughing stock and foreign investors will shy away from Britain. Snobbery is supposedly a belief in superiority.Toffs *know* they arent superior- most of em are as thick as 2 short planks.Theyre just cheats and liars. PS Ive got nothing against any toffs with integrity.Unfortunately their culture generally seems to be "looking after their own kind and fuck the rest".
I loved my school and would love to send any children I may have there too, but I wouldn't say that anyother school is better or worse just becasue it is state or independant. There are people at my old school who have gone on to great things, just as there are people who haven't, which I am sure is the same in most schools. You can stick with what you know, or go out and meet other people from different social situations. I have many friends who didn't go to my school, but I don't feel as though we are socially divided.
well at my school the 6th form , one of the teachers left at the start of the upper 6th year ( the applied maths 50 percent of the whole A level) , and another disappeared 6 months before the exam. Oh and we didnt have anyone to replace them. Still ours was actually about the 3rd best state school out of 30 in the area. Eton costs about 30k a year , the average state school cost is prob around 1500 a year.Guess who gets the best education? A state education will get you a job as a middle manager if youre lucky or a burger flippers job if u aint. But try and get a poncy job in the City or Whitehall or some fancy shit and the chances are youll very likely be fucked off for some clueless upper class twit.
Another thing to consider though is the familial attitude to education and authority, "toffs" as you label will have been raised to accept the desireability of education and also an awareness that responsibility and leadership may also be required, whereas at the opposite end of the spectrum you find families who disrespect education because it is compliant with authority which is also held in disdain, one must not lead but rather disrupt. Obviously two extremes but one could still rationalise the tendency for those in authority to employ the scum rather than the dregs.
Isn't the point about people who have the privilege of a private education recognizing their responsibility for that, or indeed their parents. If a taxation is introduced that is about paying a levy on luxury goods and services then surely someone who attends a private institution is enjoying a luxury service; therefore that fee should come with VAT? Most people who are less fortunate can only go to the state institution where education comes without a fee and therefore exempt from VAT, again they are not all scum though we maybe the dregs of society. It's shamefull how we live with some ugly paradoxes, one being the exemption of a luxury tax on a truly exclusive service and real benefit to a small percentage of this society. It isn't about stopping such systems and closing them down but making them more accountable and having those who access them foot the full responsibility for the fact they can make these choices.
