poverty

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by Cate8, Oct 15, 2008.

  1. Cate8

    Cate8 Senior Member

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    whats up with that?

    why do I see a higher degree of minorities who are the people struggling?

    Im not ignorant to the facts, but I am pressing deeper. I feel like im missing something about people and cycles we get into. Id like some answers. go.
     
  2. Boogabaah

    Boogabaah I am not here

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    i'ma a white female.. i've never even made it to the poverty line in my adult life.. :eek: i'd feel rich if i had!
     
  3. fitzy21

    fitzy21 Worst RT Mod EVAH!!!!

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    its all planned. been in the works for many many years... its been written about in some book and people follow those plans and thus we have poverty...
     
  4. zen_arcade

    zen_arcade Banned

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    a lot of stupid people think it's because black or hispanic folks are inherently not as adept as being successful as white folks, but it's really a matter of inertia. the lower class is designed to be self-perpetuating.
     
  5. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    Well, the poor are victims of systemic oppression. Chiefly, they are victims of the economic system. Systemic oppression is an overall structure or system that tends through time to restrict, diminish, devalue and reduce the personhood of some people and enable a firm value uplift and expansion upon the personhood of others.
     
  6. Cate8

    Cate8 Senior Member

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    Because I dont see inequalities in my country. Though it may exist in some form, I dont see racism in the system. Everyone has the same opportunity if they work for it.
     
  7. Cate8

    Cate8 Senior Member

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    Give me examples of systemic oppression.
     
  8. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    give it about 18 months it will all equal out..
     
  9. Cate8

    Cate8 Senior Member

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    No one is ever really equal in terms of money because people choose different paths. And I want to know why there is such a large minority involved, HHB.
     
  10. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    Sure. Systemic oppression occurs when people who are oppressed encounter systemically interrelated forces & barriers - like how you noticed people of a certain race also tend to be poor. There are a network of barriers that work together to render people of a particular background or a person of a certain class to become poor because of the systems that they encounter.

    People are oppressed because they belong to a social group. People have a tendency to view social groups as existing between binary oppositions and dichotomous thinking - It's an "us vs. them" mentality and certain people encourage a narrow view of maintaining separation and division. This is fairly prevalent in the racial realm.

    Like how Zen_Arcade mentioned that in the USA when you apply for a SIN (SSN) card and if you're from say, Portugal they will tick off the little box that says "Hispanic" and lump your own unique and distict racial profile along with all other Latin Americans, and anyone else that they see fit to include in to that racial category. That is systemic oppression.

    It involves often an institutionalized dimension of 'throwness' into a quality of social groups - people are thrown into them.

    Like how Aboriginal women who married white men in Canada up until the 1980s were revoked their Native Status. That is a way to oppress people of a particular race.

    The same kind of formal or informal modes of power manifest themselves onto the economic planes of our modern world today.
     
  11. Aristartle

    Aristartle Snow Falling on Cedars Lifetime Supporter

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    There are different manifestations and dimensions of oppression (of ways it is BUILT into our society.)

    Institutional - banks, marriage distinctions, tax buildings, etc. The physical forms of oppression that you are able to recognize a certain class distinction and economic associations thereof.

    Symbolic - languages, stories, media, advertising, body-language, religious symbols. All of this is considered a form of oppression by the way the transferring of power is used to stereotype and sell values, normative values of a particular personhood in favour over another type of personhood.

    Individual - Our individual biology - shape perceptions, expectations of self & others and internalization of our assigned culture or inheritance. This kind of oppression takes shape at the level of self-naming ourselves as being better at math because we're Chinese, etc.

    Most forms of poverty come directly from an institutionalized form of systemic oppression. There is plenty enough to go around for every person, but because of the economic form that we've chosen (free enterprise capitalism) there are people who are accumulating wealth while others have not the opportunity. It's like being a bird looking through your little bird cage when you're in poverty. You know how to fly, but someone has to open the cage.
     
  12. Cate8

    Cate8 Senior Member

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    Ill reply really soon. as it is, i am drinking beer with low concentration levels.
     
  13. fitzy21

    fitzy21 Worst RT Mod EVAH!!!!

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    i also blame affirmative action
     
  14. bird_migration

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    It is not the minorities who struggle. It is the minority that isn't poor.
     
  15. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    It's because the people at the top are eugenicists and they see blacks as a more inferior race. I mean, just look at history.
     
  16. Cate8

    Cate8 Senior Member

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    blacks? There are more minorities than that.
     
  17. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    For the millionth time, this is not a free-enterprise capitalist system.
     
  18. Cate8

    Cate8 Senior Member

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    Im not in the same country as you.

    Also, are whites in many places, now the minority? I believe so.
     
  19. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Well, I was referring to blacks in particular. But the same applies to other dark-skinned races as well.
     
  20. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Yes, whites are expected to be the minority (at least in the US) within the next three or four decades.
     
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