Porn making guys feel entitled to things?

Discussion in 'Free Love' started by nonco55, Sep 1, 2010.

  1. nonco55

    nonco55 Member

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    Do you think porn makes guys (yes, specifically guys) feel entitled to things like anal sex, bjs, deep throat, etc?

    On other websites and on-line communities I'm a part of, I sense what seems like a disconnect between what porn instills in the minds of it's male viewers, and who a lot of girls are as sexual beings. I see a lot of questions from girls, for example, about how they "hate" giving oral, yet feel too guilty over potentially "disappointing" the boyfriend or even "making him mad" by not doing it, to come out with how they feel about it to him. Seeking advice on a sort of universal opinion that guys have on girls who won't do it, literally asking "do guys get mad if you don't give them bjs?" I see a lot of the same sentiment with regards to things like anal, and deep throat. Generally a lot of "I don't like doing x with him, but I'm afraid to disappoint/make him mad" on the girls end, and on the other hand, a lot of "how do I convince/get my girlfriend to do x" on the guys end.

    I just feel that a lot of guys sort of build this crazy expectation form porn, and think "I should at least get x, x, and x in the bedroom", because of how often they see it done in porn. In porn, of course they do anal, they all deep throat, they all let the guy cum on their face, or in their mouth. But I don't think it reflects reality all that much, outside of a sort of male centered desire. I'm interested to know what percent of male users here would even bother with a girl who wouldn't give oral at all, or do anal at all, or wouldn't let you cum on her face. Would that come as a surprise? Would it become something you'd have to "work on" getting her to do?

    How many girls out there are like the ones I try and help in other communities, who continually do things they don't enjoy, quite simply because they feel they have to? How many guys think everything they like in porn, is fair to become a request in the bedroom? It seems like it's become strange to say, hey it's completely normal to not liking giving a bj, and okay not to do it, or not to do anal.


    I mean, this probably isn't the most unbiased community to ask, given the "open minded" theme. But I really believe porn has almost enslaved our sexuality in some respects. I think porn more often than not sets an unwanted standard, while those enslaved to it don't even recognize that.
     
  2. Katana

    Katana Member

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    Entitled is a word that implies obligations, duties and things of that nature.

    Sex isn't (or at least, shouldn't) be about getting your entitlement. It should be about 2 (or 3, or 17, or whatever blows your balloon) people mutually satisfying and pleasuring each other.

    If they both want and enjoy anal, or deep oral, or sex with a plastic inflatable replica of Moby Dick while listening to The Pirates of Penzance, go for it.

    But there aren't entitlements. As soon as we think that way, we're selling sex. Maybe not for money, but we're still selling it.
     
  3. white dove

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    Only red the start of ur poast and ur prob right, i was watching a porn the day and this chick was deep throteing and i was thinking why would a chick want to choke her self on a cock,, there alright to get a few moves off and stuff, to sum up im on ur side tho every body is difrent could only apply to some ppl, : )
     
  4. nonco55

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    I agree with your statements. But, did any of them really address... well, opinions on whether people feel that porn is actually having such an effect on our younger generations? Because that's what I'm getting at.


    Does anyone else feel like porn has control over our sexuality, rather than our own individual interests, in some respects? To me, it seems like guys expect things like anal now. A lot of what I'm hearing concerning people's "problems" with sex, is communicating that something so "common" by today's standards, maybe isn't for them. And maybe isn't for a lot of people still, though they try and make it so because, well that's the standard, it's expected. It's nothing in the porn world. And why wouldn't it be that way, when youth of the last two generations have turned to Internet porn to teach them how to have sex?
     
  5. Captain Cannabis

    Captain Cannabis Banned

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    If the chick ain't gonna suck my dick she better not be expecting to get eaten out... This is a two way street ya know.
     
  6. nonco55

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    Maybe she wouldn't like receiving oral either. How much of a problem would something like that be to you?
     
  7. Captain Cannabis

    Captain Cannabis Banned

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    It would be a huge problem, oral is awesome both ways.

    Maybe if people these days weren't so shy/scared of sex we'd all be satisfied lol.
     
  8. JonsonB

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    I totally agree with you. Porn does makes us little too openly to „ slutty „ side of girls. I don’t believe that this is a matter of porn. It’s quite individual thing that is influenced by many factors. For example, you can’t tell its porn, its mixture of growing up, your role models, your parents, your education and generally your character. Do you know what you want? DO you know what you like?

    I personally like to receive blow jobs. Its normal thing for me and if girl really want to please me, she would know what to do. From my experiences, younger girls tend not to know how to give a good blow job, or never did it, or generally that wasn’t part of their sexual education until now.

    Usually I need to be quit gentlemen and to first talk openly with her about what do I really like. Some girls find me repulsive, well I don’t know, I like it, and if you don’t want to please me as your man, well that means that I need to seek pleasure somewhere else.

    What did I learned through my life:

    TREAT her with respect, fuck her like whore.
    That is the best recap for good lusting relationship. This off course doesn’t mean to be dominant and leading all the time, be yourself, gentle, carrying, but from time to time, just fuck her like whore.

    First time when I called my girl BITCH, whore, I thinker that she would be offended by that. Them, when she started spiting this shit. Fuck you little whore; she wants it deep... or cum daddy for me... Or much similar stuff, I was shocked and I learned truth.

    Girls are Horney and freaks as men are. Just all the rest want to present them as „ purified princesses „ that have only 1 man in her life, and that they just don’t think about that things...

    Maybe I only danced with the „ freakiest „ girls alive, but that is hard core reality that I founded out. And if you want to blame it on porn, well I don’t know, it may be. Biggest thing that I did is enjoy honesty and pleasure with girls. I openly talk about what I want, and what she needs to do if she wants to satisfy me.
     
  9. Reverand JC

    Reverand JC Willy Fuckin' Wonka

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    The only thing I feel porn has entitled me to is a great wank.

    Peace Out,
    Rev J
     
  10. Willy_Wonka_27

    Willy_Wonka_27 Surrender to the Flow

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    Every weird sex fetish that is going on now has been going on for hundreds of years. And anal, oral, bondage, and beastiality for thousands.

    This is noting new. Porn is not changing what people want from sex. Porn is not creating the market, the market is creating the porn. Porn is showing us what we already desire.
     
  11. nonco55

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    Statements like that miss the point. May not be "new", but new to the mass population. It's new, being a sort of standard, something that everyone is sort of expected to engage in. Of course, I'm not saying all fetishes have become "expected", but some have. Anal sex was seen as a strange fetish, not all that long ago.

    For that reason, I'll have to disagree - the idea that one person's off-beat fetish being filmed, becoming something a mass of population is fixated on, isn't so much showing us our true selves. If we "already" or naturally desired these things out of a sexual relationship, they would have been common place before porn was. It's a mixture of monkey see, glorification and hormones.
     
  12. The Imaginary Being

    The Imaginary Being PAIN IN ASS Lifetime Supporter

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    Handjobs, yes. I can't wank with my nostril, though I have tried.
     
  13. nonco55

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    I believe of course that there can be other factors at play. But I think porn is particularly potent. I mean, a growing kid can be blessed with a nice upbringing, idolize not particularly bad things or people, have caring and concerned parents, have a good education, and still be influenced by porn, still very easily develop an addiction to it. People of all walks of life can be affected by it.

    Don't you think that's kind of superficial and a bit selfish though?


    See this is what I'm talking about. I don't think it's okay to just do something like that, no questions asked. Why would you say something like that without even knowing, how she would react?

    I think it's best to not approach something with disregard of the other's consent. But I think porn influences otherwise.

    That can be true. Not always the case, though again, I believe porn incorrectly portrays that. As where most portray women as "pure", porn goes the extreme of doing just the opposite.


    This is the best policy, of course. But how much does the porn standard, interfere itself into people's sexual lives? How just is it's overall power to influence and what it teaches it's viewers?
     
  14. nonco55

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    Gonna be honest, I don't see the humor in the statement, nor understand it.
     
  15. The Imaginary Being

    The Imaginary Being PAIN IN ASS Lifetime Supporter

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    i'll give you a blowly for ten bucks. No questions.
     
  16. nonco55

    nonco55 Member

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    How much has dry humor interfered with your ability to engage in discussion?! Now that's something that concerns me as well.
     
  17. The Imaginary Being

    The Imaginary Being PAIN IN ASS Lifetime Supporter

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    wet, sloppy humor actually. This conversation will involve a change of bed sheet.
     
  18. nonco55

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    You're signature says more about your contribution than your text. You're the shadowy figure preying on innocent discussion with bad puns!
     
  19. The Imaginary Being

    The Imaginary Being PAIN IN ASS Lifetime Supporter

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    So what you're saying is, you love me really? :Angel_anim:
     
  20. tiny

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    Is this a joke? No matter what people reply, all you do is ask them if they get that in their head because of porn...
     

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