They were and are genious, we can't deny it. But they were crazy, both of them. WE can't deny it. To my mind, when they looked at things, the saw another things then we see. Yeah, it is probably true. But we can't be sure about it. I'm an artist, but young artist, indeed. I try to paint in vanguard style, but of course, I can't paint as Picasso and Dali did. Can you tell me, how to paint in there manner? How to paint in vanguard style? How can we see the same that Picasso and Dali saw??? HOW??? How can we go forward when we don't know which way we were facing???? SIncerly YOURS, ANITA.
dont try to be them! they had theyre own view on the world.....think to yourslef how do you see the world! what do you notice that other people dont!?!? its our unique view on life that makes us picaso's and dali's
I despise Dali's work, but I can appreciate it's place in art history. The best art originates from being truly yourself, communicating something that is personally important to YOU. It's like music, don't ever try to be like someone else or you aren't truly being an artist.
picasso's and dali's styles were very different. true, in the latter years, picasso leaned toward a surrealist point of view in his sythethetic cubism period,but not in the photographic surrealism of dali. dali was a MAD racist...little known fact. he was banned from france because of his blatent racism, and many of his works are inherantly prejudice against blacks and other minorities. picasso, on the other hand, was a crook. neither artists were nice guys. but their art was very important for the movement it was part of. as for technique..there is none. i am an artist. i've studied much art history, too. you dabble around with painting for years until you find a signature style. (hence..all of picasso's stuff doesn't look the same, and neither does dali's) be yourself. think of an original concept and execute it. thats how the pioneers of art movements suceeded... impressionists, dadaists, surrealists, ab ex's...the list is endless.
Heres a report I did on Picasso if it helps you understand his views, styles, and emotions about his works! Hope this is useful information, and sorry its so long! Pablo Picasso Pablo Picasso was a painter of the 1900’s. Although widely known for his paintings, Pablo Picasso also produced sculptures, drawings, prints, and ceramics. He not only created enduring works of art, but also expanded our definition of what art could be. Picasso was born in Malaga, Spain the year of 1881. He was one who liked creating new styles. He grew up in a household of five women. He was not a good student and hated authority. He began drawing at age seven. He would prefer to bring a pigeon to class and spend time drawing it instead of doing his homework. Picasso’s father himself was a painter, a drawing teacher, and a curator at the town’s museum. Picasso had his first exhibit at age 13 where he showed his paintings in the back of an umbrella store. Later he hung out at the Café Four Cats where he had an exhibit. At this exhibit he only sold two works, which were portraits he had done. At age 15, Picasso was highly skilled in drawing and painting. The year of 1900 he took a trip to Paris where he experimented with different styles of painting (impressionism, pointillism, and symbolism; all styles were important art movements of the late 1800’s). He was 18 when he traveled to Paris. When Picasso lived in Paris, he lived in a difficult manor. He worked by the light of a single candlestick when he had enough money to purchase one. He often didn’t. He used books as pillows and burned drawings to keep warm. He kept a white mouse as a pet and ate fried potatoes, beans, and omelets. When his place was robbed, thieves stole everything he had, except his art. In 1904 Picasso moved to France where he lived till his death in 1973. He was often involved with many women throughout his life and decided to let women fight over him. He finally married his second wife Jacqueline. She was the only one that could be around Picasso when he painted. Jacqueline and Picasso had a family of four children. Picasso entertained the children greatly until they grew older and he lost some of his interest in them. After 1945 about six books on Picasso were published each year, and he enjoyed reading them. He had to be careful with his words because he knew eventually it would end up in print. Gradually he cut himself off from everyone except his fans. He even refused to meet his grandchildren. At his 80th birthday party, about 4 thousand invitations were sent out. At this event the police escorted Picasso. Picasso’s last words were to his doctor: “You are wrong not to be married, it’s useful!” He died without a will. His belongings and estate/property value was divided between his wife Jacqueline, three of his children, and two grandchildren. Picasso’s artistic career lasted more than 75 years. Picasso produced and experimented with many different styles of painting and art. Picasso’s first style that he focused on was called the Blue Period. The Blue Period started in 1901 and lasted till 1904. The Blue Period style expressed emotions of sadness and alienation. This was shown by using shades of blue upon the paintings and characters. During the Blue Period Picasso had moved to Paris and lived a less than royally. His home was a garret. Eventually in 1904 he moved to France. In 1904 he also started a new period of style. This style was known as the Rose Red Period. The Rose Red Period lasted until 1906. The Rose Red Period was known to use rose shades that characterized the paintings. In 1907 Picasso experimented with another painting style. He took ideas from African and Iberian sculptures and created characters using a mask like structure. At the same time Picasso painted in a cubism style. Cubism was pioneered by Picasso and the French painter George Braque. Cubism is a style of sharp edges and broke-up the art into different plans. Picasso changed styles again in 1912. He started incorporating pieces of wallpaper, newspaper prints, postage stamps, and other materials into his paintings. This style of art was called collage. Collage questioned the boundaries between art and reality. Picasso then moved back to the style of Cubism till 1918, the end of World War 1. Up till 1920, he moved to a style differencing from classical art. He characterized this style by huge and stately figures. By the late 1920’s Picasso had turned to a flat, cubist-related style. In this style works he concentrated on mainly two themes: the artist and model, and the bullfighter (Picasso loved bullfighters). Following World War II (1939-1945), Picasso’s work became gentle in feeling opposed to the political works he had created. During this period of painting he turned to historical examples for inspiration in his paintings. He made several versions of works by earlier artists. One important series of such paintings represents his interpretation of Las Meninas, a painting by Spanish artist Diego Velázquez in 1656. Picasso painted Les Demoiselles d’ Avignon in 1907. This painting is known as a landmark in art. The five nude peculiar figures were painted in a topsy-turvy setting, where space and objects were totally distorted. The women painted in the painting were the women of Carrer d’ Avinyo, a street in Barcelona. In the painting the women on the left seems to be turning into a drape from the hip down. Her body is tinted many Earth colors, and leg that juts forward is outlined in blue. The next two women are standing straight but their noses in profile. The ferocious figure on the right has a strangely distorted body. Most peculiar of all is the squatting figure. The back of her torso, the side of her leg, and the front of her face are all shown at once making it seem as though she had been taken apart and put back together again. The two women standing in the far left and right corners pull back the curtains to reveal the scene. On the left side of the painting the drapery is stiff as a board, and on the right side it falls below the frame. Between the characters lie more drapes. The drapery mixes up the characters in the painting making it hard to see where the figures end and where the drapes begin. On the left the women’s foot indicates the floor, which disappears behind an oddly shattered bowl of fruit. Picasso painted everything in pieces. His subject of five nude women is very traditional, but Picasso transformed it dramatically. Picasso got the idea for the painting from African masks. Two women in Picasso’s worked included an idea of an African mask. Picasso used some of Cézanne’s forms on his paintings. Cézanne studied nature endlessly, looking for basic geometric forms such as cones, spheres, and cylinders. During the 18 months Picasso painted no one could see his work. When a Picasso is cleaned the painting is changed. Dirt and cleaning treatment gets down into the painting and darkens the lines. Cleaners fill in the cracks in the paintings with watercolors to restore the look of the painting. “The goal is to respect the artists intent.” Michael Duffy from MoMA’s stated. Watercolors were used to fill in cracks of Picasso’s Les Demoiselles d’ Avignon. This was because the watercolors would be easily removed in the future. “It’s a tough call,” says MoMA’s James Coddington (Duffy’s partner), “as to what should be retouched.” MoMA’s bought Les Demoiselles d’ Avignon in 1939. In 1950 it was retouched and varnished with a synthetic resin. In 1963 it was infused with a wax resin adhesive, which was suppose to strengthen the lining and protect the painting from changes in humidity and temperature. But wax seeped through the canvas, and the excess had to be removed from the painting’s surface, leaving waxy residues. This was viewed as “Crimes Against Cubists.” People at MoMA’s express Picasso’s Les Demoiselles d’ Avignon very modern, in a un-pattern form. It has smudges that Picasso didn’t bother to brush over, brush-strokes he literally x-ed out and left that way. Pablo Picasso was widely known for his paintings and expanded our definition of what art is and what art could be. Surely anyone can create a painting, but what makes a painting great? Better yet, what makes a Picasso a Picasso? Throughout Picasso’s artistic career he showed objects from many viewpoints at a time, often combining a straight on view with a profile. He often simplified the things we saw into basic shapes, such as circles and triangles. He exaggerated and distorted shapes and colors convey emotion. He also used bold black outlines, sometimes with bright colors. Clearly Picasso had struggling points throughout his life. By expressing those issues, events, and emotions through art, he made history. Picasso impacted our world by his feelings, dedication, and viewpoints of different events and objects. What is truly art? Picasso! Works Cited Trachtman, Paul. “Cleaning Picasso.” Smithsonian October 2004: 90-94 Scott Fetzer Company. “Pablo Picasso.” World Book Millennium Encyclopedia. 2000 ed.: 448-449 Muhlberger, Richard. What Makes A Picasso A Picasso?. New York: Metropolitan Museum of Art, 1994: 7-48. Krull, Kathleen. Lives of the Artists. San Diego: Harcourt Brace and Company, 1995: 54-59. Who Am I? I am a famous painter of the 1900’s. I not only produced paintings, but also sculptures, drawings, prints, and ceramics. After 1945 about six books were published on me. I painted the famous painting Les Demoiselles d’ Avignon in 1907. Les Demoiselles d’ Avignon was a landmark in art and painted during my Blue Period. I liked to paint objects from many viewpoints at a time, often combining a straight on view with a profile. I simplified things into basic shapes such as circles and triangles in my art. I exaggerated and distorted shapes and the colors I use convey emotion. I sometimes use bold black outlines with bright colors. I expressed my emotions and feeling throughout my art. Who Am I? Pablo Picasso
Absolutely! Anita,you just need to find your own style and it will be beautiful. Live and create and see the world as only you can see it. When we look at your art,we will be seeing the world through your eyes.
the coolest part about dali is he was a compulsive masturbater, to him self at least, preparing to have sex with a single person....his artwork was just a byproduct of that anxiety.
those guys are truely some dirty bastereds but they were also some very interesting people. they both played the system and both figured out how to make it work.
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Picasso and Dali's sanity is questionable, but their style shouldn't be replicated merely because of personal intrigue. I mean, sure, you should create a work or two in the style they used so you can add those ideas to your own; but don't aspire to it. I am able to see stuff far more "insane" than what is represented in their works (as I'm sure they were able to themselves); but I am limited in my abilities to express those images. Just practice new and different styles and techniques and you'll be able to churn out something that will amaze even yourself; I do so even now, without any real education in technique or style whatsoever.
