Peruvian Torch Cactus Info (Dose?)

Discussion in 'Cacti Delecti' started by phx, Jul 19, 2006.

  1. phx

    phx Member

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    Ok, i've been trying to read up on Peruvian Torch Cactus online.. searching google and what not, and information seems to be hard to come by.

    I tried to search for it on these forums.. but it always says no results found for whatever I do (even if I do like torch for all forums entire posts).. so idk if i'm doing something wrong.
    I have a couple questions..
    I've read 'eating'/digesting the powder is the best way to take it. In forms of just the powder.. mixing it... making it into a tea... etc. Is this accurate?

    Also, if someone where to have the powder.. how much would be a light dose, medium dose and high dose? I'm assuming the powder comes in form of grams.

    Any other research I should look into? Site links? I can't find info on this cactus at all besides forums.

    Any help would be appreciated.. thanks!
     
  2. stalk

    stalk Banned

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    Just eat as much as you can.

    Mescaline is great in high doses.
     
  3. astroneurologist

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    The concentration of active chemical(s) may very greatly. Thus, it would make more sense to bioassay the plant first even if it is more costly. This would involve starting with a small amount, target threshold, waiting several days or more to eliminate tolerance before increasing the dose. Continue until desired effects are obtained. Ideally one would extract the active principles to facilitate easier and more pleasant dosing.
     
  4. mkc414

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    Here is a starter, I've dreamed of experimenting with various doses a few times-

    If you have dried/powdered PT- 20 grams will get you there, 25 will give it some flair, 30 and beyond are where you start "going deep." I weigh about 190lbs, so take that into consideration.

    It's strong stuff. Recommend doing it during the day. Acidity seems to have an effect on the strength of the effects too, so stuff like Coke, OJ, or Lime/Lemon may alter results a bit.

    Gel caps are probably the most painless way to go about it. However, I suspect the large amount of gel from the gel caps clogs up your system for a little while.

    If you drink it- here is a mixture that an invisible spider told me in a dream:

    Mix powder with lemon/lime soda water, allow time to fully dissolve and keep a watery consistency. Add a bit more lemon/lime concentrate. Still tastes nasty but wont cause you to puke.
     
  5. Be Angry At The Sun

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    ive tried the gelgap method and taking that many pills ended up making me vomit profusely and not be able to enjoy the trip.ive seen some websites that sell cactus flesh though.does anyone know if i can boil this stuff down till theres a little bit of water and then drink it to get results?
     
  6. mkc414

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    You can. I dreamt that I tried it that way and couldnt even swallow a sip, it was so intense.


    Note for the gel caps- make sure you drink a ridiculous amount of water.
     
  7. Philo_1er

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    First off, gel caps are brutal because even using 000 size, you can only stuff 30 gms in 35-4o pills. Swallowing those is a pain in itself. Boiling cactus is alright, but does taste terrible. Orange Juice tends to mask the taste. The main problem I've come up against besides the purging is a terrible headache and slow absorption becasue of the gelcaps. the headache alone is enough to turn me off of drinking/eating cactus. However, there is hope because if one wanted to, one could hypothetically extract the mescaline from the cactus in a pretty simple technique easily found on the web. If you can extract DMT from mimosa or acacia, you should be able to figure out the process for mescaline from trichocerus cactus. Good luck
     
  8. phx

    phx Member

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    would it be smarter for someone to take a small dose, like 10g, test the effects, then later on do a higher dose (25-30?)
     
  9. gnrm23

    gnrm23 Senior Member

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    but --- gettin' decent "goo" from an alcohol extract is _easy_ , & coaxing a batch of crystals (as the citrate, or the HCl, or the H2SO4, or whatever) is not difficult at all...
    & a few hundred mg of crystals only need a couple/three capsules, from what i hear ;) ...

    ymmv...
     
  10. eagle feather

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    What is DMT. The mimosa tree? Albizza julibrissan?
     
  11. illusion25

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    i would eat 30g for the first experence. 50-60grams for a ard trip
     

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