Perhaps this is better suited for DMT; Yopo/Vilca

I am interested immensely in these after stumbling onto them browsing the web.
Does anyone have any experience with these?
I want to use snail shells as the calcium oxide necessary to convert the present 5-HO-DMT to 5-O-DMT, which will precipitate any nausea.
I also want to make a bird bone pipe(?) to rail it; maybe carve it up, but probably not haha.
Also, I've heard that the Anadenanthera Peregrina are really Colubrinas.. Is this true? Any sources on legit Peregrina? I'd rather use Yopo than Vilca, as it's less contingent on the effects of regular DMT and 5-MeO-DMT than it is on the 5-(H)O-DMT's action.
Also again, any synergistic effects with Peganum Harmala?

 

Mimosa Hostillis Root Bark is still the best source for easy N,N,DMT extraction. Acacia is your second best bet.

These other things are a witches brew of alkaloids, not much of it being N,N,DMT. Beware bufotenine - that is a rarified taste - it involves if you dose correctly turning beet red (EXTREME vasoconstriction), severe purging, horrible smell of burning chemicals, headache, etc.

Whether you try to extract bufo or sniff yopo snuff with these things, you are in for a world of physical hurt. Now, don't get me wrong, many a shaman has done these things as has many a psychonaut. Some do like the substances that come from these plants. BUT, if you are looking for N,N,DMT you are barking up the wrong root, so to speak.

Yes, I do believe Adenanthera Peregrina and Columbria are the same, though not 100% sure. I do believe they put out the yopo seeds. Yopo seeds yield bufotenine and are very stinky to prepare - e.g. toasting off the seed coatings.

Anyway, good luck in your searches/explorations. Hope you find what you are searching for.

 

I'm not looking for n,n,DMT or Bufotenine, but the 5-O-DMT. From my knowledge, the Bufotenine no longer exists (being 5-HO-DMT) after it reacts with the calcium hydroxide (formed by the shells CaO reacting with H2O) during the kneading process. The Ca(OH)2 and 5-HO-DMT react to form freebase 5-O-DMT. That is why you're not supposed to swallow Yopo drip, because when 5-O-DMT comes into contact with your stomach sour, it reverts to 5-HO-DMT, inducing nausea.
(SIDE NOTE: It is important to allow the kneaded dough mixture to sit for a few days in open air, so that the calcium hydroxide can react with CO2 to form calcium carbonate, which is much less caustic. Still, rinse your nasal passages after the snuff.)
I also remember reference somewhere to Adananthera peregrina possessing 4-HO-MET, or something like that, in small amounts, while the colubrina strain does not. However, I'm not sure about the validity of this.

Also, I was curious more about perhaps a tea with Peganum Harmala extract a short time before the snuff..?

 

i snorted yopo yesterday for the first time. i used sea shells. i burned the seeds a a little bit and the snuff was still a little wet when i tried to snort it. and its really hard to snort. 5 seeds + the shells was 880 mg. it made me sneeze a lot. i got treshold-low dose effects, slight nausea. i want to try it with rue too. 4 g rue tea and the snuff. i will use both crushed sea shells (i heated it to oxidize the calcium carbonate) and baking soda. and i will wash out my nose with salt water before snorting! i did it in the morning after waking up. when i looked around i could see shapes where hallucinations could form but it was too bright. try it at night.

 

gendorf, what would the baking soda do? I've heard about it a lot, but it seems frivolous.
Also, why was your snuff wet? What method did you use to prepare the Yopo?
The effects I've heard described are nothing like what you've told me.
Though I will likely test this at night now haha.

 

i added the water so the calcium oxide could turn into calcium hidroxide or something like that. i will add the baking soda becouse im still experimenting and i know a dude who used baking soda and had a really strong trip. i will use this recepie : http://www.psychonaut.com/post-36458.html?f=2

 

Oh, the water is meant to be added to the mixture of calcium oxide (ash of shells) and pulverized Anadenanthera. This doughy mixture should then be kneaded for an hour or so, and left to sit for a few days. This makes the remaining calcium hydroxide convert to calcium carbonate, which is less harsh on your nose. After you grind up this dried mixture, the powder will also be much finer and much more psychedelic.