The more something is modified, the further from perfect it becomes. The problem is our inability to recognize that perfection exists in its natural form. We must learn to accept things in their true form, not change them. This can be applied to ourselves and others as well. Perfection is acceptance.
it's one thing to muck around and change nature , an evil irresponsible thing to make those changes institutional . the promotion of those changes as human progress is also an artifice . perfectionists design perfect sales strategies and inherently selfishly so . ya , i'm a nature guy . they can't even give me a free health insurance cuz i won't take it . i take my troubles to earth and her true kindness is proven to me again and again . should i perfectly miserably die in peace so what .
There is no such thing as perfection. No one or not one thing can ever be perfect.. But humans are always trying to make things perfect with science and technology.
When humans attempt to make something perfect through science and technology it has been influenced by someones own idea of perfection. Nothing can ever be perfect to everyone, but perfection does exist. If someone were to truly accept something for what it is then to them that something is perfect. Perfection is subjective.
Good point. But that is just perfection to that one person in their own eyes... But it still isn't truly perfect.
It may be possible that perfection takes on many different forms. There is much more to learn about the concept of perfection it seems!
Agreed. People tend to complain a lot about technology, but they don't understand that it is just as natural as the trees outside our windows. Wasps build paper nests out of wood pulp - monkeys use sticks to hunt for insects, impale insects as presents for lovers, and even to masturbate. These may seem a long way away from high technology, but there are six simple machines that can be the breakdown of all mechanical technology, and without mechanical technology, digital technology would be impossible to produce. It's all natural. All. Everything is composed by the same pressurized bits of energy that we call matter. Everything. It's easy to blame our technology for our woes, but (and OP this goes especially for you) we have to accept it as a natural part of human progression.
Technology does assist in human advancement, and everything is composed of the same matter. However, the goal of technology isn't always correct. Take for example the atomic bomb; an incredible scientific breakthrough that yields the power to destroy. The invention of the atomic bomb has provided insight into the atomic world, but its purpose is to kill. We are essentially trying to create the perfect weapon.
So is there a point that technology goes too far? At what point do we have to accept it as a natural part of human degression?
No. Humans made that technology. There are always points where humans go too far, but so far no technology has been self-replicating. Is it? I would agree with you that humans have digressed since the advent of high-tech, but I wouldn't blame the technology. If we get too reliant on the technology our fore-bearers have made, we have no one to blame but ourselves. I don't know who first said that if we get too wrapped up in our possessions, they begin to possess us - but it's the same idea for our collective possession of technology. If we become too reliant on it - we no longer have control of it. The same could be said of say... money.. the government.. most anything, really.
i see what your saying... but perfection, as stated, is a word that implies its opposite - imperfection. i think what you're talking about is something words do in their very nature. they modify, in fact reduce any experience into a logical symbolic order. Now, since language isn't going away, that isn't to say its all bad. once words take on their meanings in the mind, they become objects of their own and can be used poetically to provoke flights of fantasy and inspire the imagination. usually this is accomplished by arranging them in unfamiliar, non-rational order, making use of their sound and imagery to produce an experience, not just communicate a concept. when used to create concepts and equations, we are able to create technologies which (if used wisely) can expand and redefine the realities we inhabit. they can also exploit our realities. Humans want to communicate - by our nature and through culture, we all modify our experience. i think the danger is in assuming that our modifications are the only ones. so when we're using words like Perfection to describe our reality, i think its just as true that the Imperfections are what makes something beautiful and unique. to me, the strive for "perfection" and the consequent "imperfection", is created, sort of like you said, by modifying our experience- by making the distinction between perfect and imperfect. but making such a distinction isn't bad, its what we do best, just important not to confuse it with Truth. so, being that we are having a discussion, i would modify the satement: "to achieve perfection, one must accept all imperfections". i do see what you mean though. when we take the masks and labels and roles away from a person or a thing, when we stop tweaking or changing it, it remains as "thing in-itself". perfect in ever way as it is, regardless what particular form its energy takes. and really, we can apply this not to just ourselves or our possesions but to the entire universe - one great big happening, that couldnt have happened any other way. And, its still happening! unfortunately, no concept or combination of words, however poetic, has led me to this perspective. usually it arises spontaneously, triggered by simple, natural things.