People that "never come back".

I really want to try LSD, more than anything else. I am just hesitant to try it because of stories I've heard of people not coming back, becoming psychotic, "acid casualties".

So without any biases for or against, could you all give me a good run down and possible repercussions you have experienced or witnessed in others you know?

Bad trips? after effects?

I don't want to hear about an article, I want to hear from someones own personal experience.

 

Im an acorn..

 

don't post anything surprising.

I might tip over and the orange juice might fall out of me.

 

If you don't want reputable sources or academic papers, then, I'd say trust me. There's no such thing as an acid casualty or a bad trip. Listen to Orison, he's a very wise man. Be the acorn. Live as a nut. Do feed the squirrels. :sunny:

 

A friend of mine has had a lot of his friends commit suicide after using psychedelics often. I met a man in Ottawa who had a bad lsd trip in his youth and is still fucked up from it. And he was around my uncles age in his 60's. Trying it once, when you're in a good mood and prepared. You'll be fine. Moderation is key.

 

Voyage this time we disagree i have seen them live and direct

Some people are just not suitable because before they took it they were already on the edge..................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A so called bad trip can send someone over the edge !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is normally a temporary condition but ive seen long term casualties admittedly only one who had been spiked by some evil people :devil:

On a happier note normally these things do not happen :2thumbsup:

 

Uh yeah...I can see where that would qualify as an acid casualty.
Just make sure you've got good people around for good vibes and at least one person to possibly supervise you. You'll feel better knowing there's someone looking out for you, thus giving your mind the freedom to open up and have a good trip.

 

I don't agree with that.

I had my first LSD trips on my own and was fine, feeling super good and enjoying it a lot. I was exploring the acid realms at my own pace, with nobody to rush me or ruin my mood, and it was perfect. I decided after a bit to try it with people and it was the worst thing ever. I can handle myself when I trip but that's pretty much all I can handle, unfortunately it's not everyone's case so people badtripping, freaking out and purging tend to make me feel awful. So have it with people around, but choose them wisely and have a private spot where you can retreat if needed.

 

That was just tongue in cheek sarcasm. Since the OP said he didn't want any verifiable facts, only anecdotes and heresay.

I agree tho, the years of research indicate in some people psychedelics can potentiate an underlying mental issue.

But if we're just talking stories... never met an acid casualty.

 

Talking about acid casualty is like talking about pancake casualty. Yes, it's possible, but are you stupid enough? Or do you already have some mental illness?

I know you don't like articles ... but still -
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-st...s-in-all-you-can-eat-contest-115875-21172917/

 

if you don't think there is such a thing as an acid casualty then you are wrong.

i feel like i've mentioned this in like several threads, but one of my friends did have a psychotic break that lasted almost a year from acid. though, he took 4 really strong hits for his first time, which in my opinion is too much for a first timer.

there are even several accounts of temporary pschotic breaks from people within the online psychedelic community. i remember reading a report on the shroomery about some guy who had a psychotic break that lasted a few months.

but it is extremely rare.

i'd say, so long as you don't dose too much your first time and are in a good place then you will probably be good, then you can asess whether it will be safe to trip or not for yourself.

 

I'm not so sure myself, Stan Grof says that if strong memories are activated in a psychedelic session but not resolved by the reliving of the core experience the person can stay under its influence.

 

Don't spill me bro.

 

I've heard the whole turn into the orange don't spill me kid who had a sheet of acid dosed in him because he hid it in his shoe and stepped in a rain puddle story many times, from many different people, and the story always varies.

The kid is in Alabama in a crazy house, or no I was at the crisis center and he was there, I don't believe in that for a second, I've done my research... lol appreciate the sarcasm though.

I've heard of cases of perma tripping, and people just all of a sudden come back after being psychotic for a period of time.

I had a friend that left for a couple years and was doing acid and x a lot who came back more cracked than he already was, key word here I think *already was. His insecurities and egos were just souped up worse, course he was prone to hyping himself up to something he's not, so excacberated psychosis case? yes I would say. This was what was concerning me the most, but he was a already kinda off before hand, and I honestly doubt the LSD and MDMA were the main causes of this change.

I believe a bad trip can be likened to a traumatic experience, maybe even worse because the bad trip is playing on insecurities already repressed. Of course traumatic experiences can be bounced back from.

I've quit smoking cigarettes, caffeine, taking a break from the weed, have been off all pharmaceuticals for months now, and going into a clean period of self introspection before I embark on this This will be defined by meditations, deep probing, and self expression in my writing and music.
When it comes a long, I will take it probably by myself, unless I stumble upon a trusted individual ( I get paranoid on bud enough around untrusted folks) who has been there, I doubt it though because of the type of minds that dominate my town.

I will probably take it in the forest, nature setting. I feel it gives me a sense of grounding in everyday life, so this would be great. I'm going to make a cd of the songs that speak to me in my lifetime before the trip. Ideally I would like to have a lover with me, if I find one, not for sex, just for sheer enhancement of the enjoyment between me and someone I love.

These should be ideal enough conditions, my first dose I will take a strip (4 hits)... I don't want a light experience, nothing too strong and considering stories I've heard from heads of the acid that comes through here, it is not that strong. 4 hits should be good.

thank you all for the advice, keep it coming this is an interesting topic!

 

I've tripped several hundred times, never had any problems and never met anyone that got "permafried".

 

Go into it with a good mindset and the first time should be in a comfortable and safe environment (no fear of getting caught, hurt, or any other negative event that you deem somewhat likely). Do it with somebody you know well for your first time. If you have any anxiety about it, consider not taking it at that time or a small dose. There is something to be said for a good dose for your first time. If you always remember that it is all in your head, then even if things aren't good (I felt like I had the flu on one strong trip way back when I did that stuff ... more than 20 years), but focus on the knowledge that you will get though it and you will always be fine (I suppose a sub 0.01% uncover latent issues with a single experience). Most "bad trips" aren't bad the entire time. It is just best to roll with it and embrace the experience.

 

thanks man. I"m really looking forward to this!

 

psychopharmacology studies tell us that psychedelics such as lsd and psilocybin will induce pre-existing or underlying mental sicknesses they do not produce these effects in people not already pre-disposed or prone to the illnesses in question. simple, someone who displays even subtle hints of psychosis or scizophrenia should not imbibe in these substances. even cannabis has been known to trigger pre-lying mental sickness.

to say that psychedelics themselves can *cause* these illnesses as one of it's effects is misinformation, plain and simple.

 

That fucking sucks I imagine being spiked is quite a frightening experience, particularly if you weren't expecting it.