people suck

ok so i know this isnt much to do with LSD but im just writing about how many people are becoming assholes day by day. this is a discussion board but really there needs to be some stricter guide lines or a mod to delete posts for some arguments because on some threads there is nothing but bickering between 2 people ruining the whole topic being "discussed".

just my opinion and im probably going to get a whole bunch of abusive replys from the people im talking about (you know who you are).

but id like to see this forum raise up to a higher standard then people scraping over the net. some of the posts on here really are great to read and their hard to find because of people posting 6 or 7 pages of crap between them.

anyway just spreading the message of Peace.

take it easy peoples and dont let the small things get to you. agree to disagree and move on for gods sake!

--T/M/S.

 

aha ahahaha 'peace' through dictation,
do humans have no other way?

 

I actually like this forum because it's so unregulated. 3xI is kind of a jerk, but whatever. The Shroomery has lots of knowledgeable but unpretentious folks, UK Drug forum has a lot of stuck up pretentious assholes, so if that's what you're looking for, try that out. This here Hip Forum is the forum for young and old people who either know nothing or think they know everything to say whatever they want to.

 

aha ahahaha 'peace' through dictation,
do humans have no other way?

typical.

I wasnt trying to say dictate anything. i was just saying threads were pages and pages of arguments make it impossible to read wat the actual thread is about should be cleaned up a little more.

 

3xI is kind of a jerk

he has some great points sometimes. although i do not agree with his posts most of the time there usually an entertaining read. i just dont want to go through 5 pages of 3xi arguing with someone (just an example 3xi) and then totally not knowing anything about the subject discussed.

 

i find arguing good

cause then you can see the flaws and truths in both there sides

 

Some topics ive seen are just arguing who is the biggest Acid head and because they have tripped a couple of hundred times think they are gods.

We are supposed to be peaceful, with helpful discussion. Not dick sizing.

Peace

 

free speech forums.

whats worse than having thread being delted by some fucken mod. its so annoying that thats why this is the only forum for me.

you could call it arguing, or you could call it debating.

 

ya there are a few people who think i am a jerk or an ass hole.

the truth is that i am right most of the time and i am not afraid to admit it. that really gets people upset for some reason. too hard to accept that some people are so confident. when i carry out a discussion - like when someone comments on what i have said and i do the same - i do this only to clarify or elaborate or maybe even to take back something i said or in many cases someone else’s post has in some way helped me to better understand what i was trying to say and i take the time to expand on my own realizations thanx to the stimulating conversation. if you want to call that an argument go right ahead - i call it a debate or intelligent conversation. at least i dont resort to name calling or suggesting that people should be silenced.

no one is perfect and i dont know everything. that is a big difference between myself and a lot of the young know it alls on this forum. they post when they dont really know what they are talking about. i only post when i am sure i know what i am talking about - if i am unsure i make that very clear. basically what this means is that as far as this forum is concerned very rarely am i ever proven wrong - that is only because i only post when i am sure i know what i am talking about. this doesnt mean i am prefect or that i know everything but it does put me a step above many of you in this forum.

because i am older and more experienced than most of the people in this forum i am forced to defend myself constantly. if you read the threads i am involved in which i am sure you have you will notice that i am not fighting at all. there are a lot of people with harsh things to say about me but i only offer my perspective and stand up for myself.(just like i am doing right now) sure i have mentioned how stuborn people are being or how immature they are being but that is the truth and does not compare to saying things like "3xi is a jerk, or 3xi is an asshole, or 3xi is a douchbag, or 3xi ......" ... at least i offer intelligent conversations with good points - most of the people who dont like me can only muster up one sentence that usually winds up calling me names. i dont mind at all as this helps in proving my point - that this forum is full of a bunch of immature kids who dont like that there is someone in the world who is older with more experience who is more knowledgeable than they are. really it is no big deal. should i care about of bunch or ego driven youth. well i do care about you but not in any way that will have me thinking that i should shut my mouth or go someplace else so you can carry out your ignorant babble. you guys all have something to say and there are a lot of people that have lots of good things to say - but anyone who does not see a place for my perspective can just skip over my posts or if that is too difficult - find another forum.

when i say that i have more experience than most people on these forums it is not in attempts to win over some sort of stature or place as a leader in some cult or group. i am not looking for a bunch of followers. this is not some contest to see who is closer to god. this is only a very safe and obvious observation that i have made and see no need not to mention it. the reason i make this observation is because a lot of you are not taking this into consideration when you read my posts. most of you are on here for the same reasons - to expand your knowledge of LSD and offer your own perspective. it is not about who has done more acid like some childish school game.

i have been using LSD for 10+ years. when i was younger i had to learn the hard way about many things. i learned a lot in 10 years and i can share this with people. some people dont want to hear it from me and that is fine but there are many who like to read what i have to say (even if they dont admit it)... through me and what i have to say about LSD and how it relates to life in the 21century you can learn a lot. when you listen to what i have to say and how i look at things you can make your own life easier. not everyone needs to hear what i have to say about everything and that is not what i am getting at.

i am not suggesting that people shut up or go someplace else. speak up and be heard. what i would like to see is people respecting each other. when i was just getting into LSD i knew very little and i acted like i knew very little. i would listen very carefully to what the more experienced trippers had to say to me. whenever i was around someone with more experience with psychedelic drugs they always had some sort of wisdom to pass down. i not only respected this i loved it - i love that fact that these people care about me enough to spend the hours that it took to help me better understand the wonderful world of psychedelics. when we were in the room together there was no need to fight over who deserves respect. they talked to me like i was inexperienced and i respected them for that - actually i loved them for it and i saw their gesture as a good indication that LSD does good things for people. so basically what i am getting at here is - respect those who have more experience than you do - you dont always have to agree with them but you should respect them. this has a lot to do with respecting those who came before you. if you think that i am wrong in anyway please take the time to actually make a point - elaborate and make sure that everyone understands why you disagree. after reading everyone’s perspectives you should have a little more to say than - 3xi, your a douchbag!


come on .... "people suck" .. then you go on to explain how we should remove one of the few people who takes the time to actually make good, well thought out points and observations.

 

couldnt agree with you more, arguing IS freedom of speech, having a mod deleting posts ISNT freedom of speech.

 

God 3Xi, you're such a jerk!

 

you aren't a jerk...just annoying.

 

care to elaborate? ...lol

 

No, there is no truth behind that statement. What you are (this case being 'right' or 'wrong') 'usually' is a matter of reviewing your posts. You believe you are 'right', but that doesn't make you right. Usually what you think is right happens to have no scientific back up and is based on pure biase, and you still believe that you are 'right' even after being 'proven' (scientifically and logically) wrong. I think the only thing you are is ignorant and very contradictive, and it can be annoying for new comers when you jump on their threads with your unscientific biase and then your 'I am always right attitude' on top of it. I think if you learned how to argue and defend your points properly, you could probably be a dick biting machine, but maybe another day.

Most of the time your bickering (also known as 'intelligent conversation' in your world), is not intelligent conversation at all, unless to you being biased is, then sure call yourself whatever you want.

Hmm, by what you said above I would of thought the opposite.

I actually would want some proof of your age, as anyone who is older would probably agree that age does not equal experience, unless with age you are experiencing whatever you claim to be experienced in. Ex, "I have been doing X for 20 years". You've been doing drugs for X amount of years? Big deal, that's all personal experience, doesn't mean you know anything scientific about whatever you're doing, and it certainly doesn't leave the fact behind that after X amount of years doing drugs so frequently, that you are[n't] fucked up in the head by now. Who are you more experienced than? I'd like to know that. You can't back up half the shit you say, lol. Now you're asking people to elaborate? Riiiiightttt.

I actually would agree to all 3 and maybe 4 of them statements made there but I still attempt to have intelligent debates with you (however they only last about 2 or 3 replies before you start making personal attacks).

Who are you to make claims on what this forum is full of? It's the fact that this area of the forum is filled with 'people like you' that drives others away. Truth is, when people offer YOU intelligent debate, you only last 2 or 3 sentences before you 'muster up a line' that is a personal attack against somebody else. I know it's the internet, but if you are going to talk about / attempt to engage in an 'intelligent' 'debate', at least be a bit more punctual. I'm sure everything I do and I'm sure everybody else knows that whatever they do there is probably somebody else is probably more experienced in that area, and guess what, not only is it generally accepted but these 'more experienced' people have DEGREES to back themselves up. What do you have? "Oh I'm 31 so I'm more experienced." Give me a break, I'd love to know how experience is gained through popping paper in your mouth 3 times a week. And go ask the cops for a degree while your at it really, teehee.

People who try to absorb your perspective fully are the ones who can see that your perspective is usually based on biase and bullshit, and an egocentric attitude. I can see your points easily, however they usually make no sense and have no back up whatsoever. If you are going to act like that - then you should realize others will too. Why don't YOU save a place for others perspective aswell? Before you even start to think people will do the same for you.

 

this guy swoosh is talking about how he scientifically proved that alcohol consumption is good for you.

when in actual fact there is no proof. the only scientific document that they had as evidence only said that alcohol may have a few benefits. the only reason they use the word "may" is because they can not prove it.

i say that any alcohol consumption is bad because i believe it is and i have every right to think so. there is plenty of proof that alcohol consumption can be bad for you - i just take that a step further and say it is bad. sue me

just because you dont understand what i am talking about does not make what i am saying any less intelligent.

 

No, this guy 'sw0o0sh' is talking about that 6 paragraph piece of shit you wrote in this thread (and yes, acting like you I will say that I have every right to believe it was infact a piece of shit); that only made you look more like an asshole rather than less. You were already proven wrong that 'some' alcohol consumption can be beneficial. And you can also explain how you Sally'd out of defending yourself after definitively being proven wrong.

I'm not trying to turn this into another debate, if there is actual proof that there is actually no proof whether some alcohol consumption is beneficial, then give me a link to the article which states such? You probably won't (because you can not).

"i say that any alcohol consumption is bad because i believe it is and i have every right to think so. there is plenty of proof that alcohol consumption can be bad for you - i just take that a step further and say it is bad. "

Because you believe it is does not make that a fact in the world, understand that much? Sure, you have every right to believe in something false, but it only makes you look more ignorant rather than less. There IS plenty of proof that alcohol consumption can be bad, way to state the obvious. But when you state in the other topic that 'ANY' alcohol use is bad, then that's your fault, or a grammatical fault. Yeah, you just take it a step further and start being ignorant when your beliefs are proven wrong. Sue me

 

hey swoosh - why did you remove your age? you dont want people to know how old you are anymore?

 

Hmm, odd, I think I've found a contradiction in your little post.

Oh really? then why say:

 

Hey 3xi? Give up trying to prove your false statements true? It's funny how everytime you can't prove yourself you start making points based upon age. It's my right to disclose my age, whether or not you like it is your own deal. I don't display it because people like you who can't not defend themselves use it as leverage for a personal attack, which you are trying to do right now. Why not just admit you are biased and contradictive? It'd be better being straight forward instead of making long useless posts which end up proving that anyway.

 

thank you very much for making sure that everyone understands what i am talking about when i refer to the immature ignorant kids who think it is beneficial to resort to name calling.

and by the way - are you attacking me??? you sure are!