Pending law makes tactics of Dr.King and Ghandi "terrorist", punishable

Cutting into profits using activism, non-violent civil disobedience, is now about to become considered an "act of terrorism"...

 

It's only necessary if large corporations want to minimize their losses, and scrutiny. This thing should be halted now.

 

I hate our govenment so much! At least we don't have a dictator.

I can't believe they are making "animal terrorists" laws!
Civil disobedience is all we have!

What can we do now to show what we stand for? Well voting, but protest is a RIGHT TOO!!!

 

The only thing we can do is move out of the country.

 

I disagree. I think we should stand up, take to the streets and protest our government and their actions. If enough people do that, this country will be fit to live in again.

 

have you read the bill? here is a link to it...

http://www.theorator.com/bills109/s1926.html

You know damn well this isn't targetted for people who hold up signs outside of animal testing facilities...it is designed for those who physically block scientists from doing their job, who threaten to blow up facilities and do other such nasty things.

Please dont blow this law out of proportion...

 

or those who dare run websites:

http://www.greenisthenewred.com/blog/newred

who is meant to be "targeted" and who is actually affected by a law can vary greatly, especially when they have precendent...

 

What exactly is the job of these scientists? to torture and brutually treat animals to promote the production of some new cosmetic, etc. There are so many computer generated programs that can accomplish the same thing, but some companies and research organizations continue to sacrifice innocent lives to promote products that don't justify the loss of any life form. Yet we protect their capital interest over the harm and terror it causes other living organisms. Yet our current administration denies the use of embryonic cells for research. It's a contradiction that can only be explained by money.

 

We don't?

 

Anything that defies the government is now terrorism. They have raped the constitution.

 

If they were targeting people that blow up research labs then why don't they make harsher laws for blowing up businesses/research labs? Duh. Blowing shit up is violent, and the bill says it's targeting "non violent" protesting. Why take away protest?



Business runs our government, and companies that test on animals hate protestors and probably threatened to cut funding to the Republican party if they didn't instate this bill.

I attend the University of Minnesota, and i hate the people that blew up our animal research labs; we treat them so well. We don't test on dogs or cats, just rats mostly (at least in the neurosci labs). And we have learned a whole freaking lot from rats.

 

Terrorism is, by definition, violence motivated by polictical objectives. Therefore anything non-violent cannot be terrorism. I wish these politicians would use some common sense, or at least pick up a dictionary every now and then.

 

all i know is, in three years, I'm crossin the boarder and never looking back.

 

Corporate powers will see any resistance to their methods as impacting their well being/bottom line, and in that context anyone resisting or protesting their methods will be seen as terrorists in their eyes. If they can lobby to prevent any sort of activity that could impact their enterprise they will.

 

After reading through the bill it does not seem to me to be targeting true protest IMO. It is aimed at illegal acts that cause econmic harm/harm to property to organizations. Like releasing animals, distroying records, purposly maiming loggers with traps, etc. These acts were coined "enviromental terrorism" way before Bush was even in office. To me protest is about having laws changed not distroying property of people who are operating under the law. Protest your politians to change current animal welfare laws to shut labs down if that is your goal. It does not give anyone the right to try to hurt scientists, release others property or destroy important medical/research records. The website you are referring to was giving out info on companies/scientists to encourage illegal acts of "enviromental terrorism". I look at this along the same lines as the websites posting names and addresses of abortion doctors so that others not associated with them would try to kill them. Then they keep the tally of the dead on the website. I'm sorry that should not be protected. You have the right to protest laws and the government to advance change but do not have the right to terrorize people who are working with-in current laws IMO.

 

Also what acts that Dr. King and Ghandi involve themselves in that you feel are punishable under this law? I don't remember either of them distroying property to pass on their message. Maybe I am wrong, enlighten me.

 

You sure are right about that. Big business will stop at nothing to protect the bottom line. Over the last few years, the word terrorist has been distorted so that it doesn't just mean political violence anymore. It now means whatever the powers want it to mean at the time, and if you ask me that's a pretty big threat to the liberty of the common individual.

 

OMG!!!

STOP COMPARING FUCKING ECOTERROTISTS WITH MLK! HE DID NOT ADVOCATE BLOWING SHIT UP!

Maybe if the A.L.F and Greenpeace did something useful for animals once in awhile rather than burning buildings down and teaching kids how to break into labs or turn cow crap into bombs, the government wouldn't have to make such strict laws.

Good god, people. Has all logic completely gone out the window with the "special" brownies??

 

The thread isn't about "blowing shit up".
It's about non-violent eco-activism being classified as eco-terrorism.

No one here is straight up advocating on behalf of domestic terrorism(although i dont see A.L.F, E.L.F., or Greenpeace as terrorists either).

 

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