Ok, so who is really seriouse about helping to orgonize The Peace Festival?! It will take a lot of work, and a lot of peacful loving people, but I think this thing can really happen. Here are my thought on it: We could call it "The Peace Festival." I think simple is sometimes better. Just plain peace. What do ya think? I vote we have it in Ohio! But I that's just convient for me. Maybe we could take it on the road? Maybe it could be held in several different locations throughout the summer? I've been thinking about this a lot. Dh and I have been involved with these kinds of things, but we've never done it ourselves. We've seen a lot of failure! If I were doing it (and could do it) right now, this is what I would do, locally speaking, anyway: I would find a camp site/huge lot of land to hold the festival. It woul have to be somewhere very large (obviously) and somewhere cheap! (I do know someone who has land in ohio that they use for festivals....maybe I could get ahold of him, I bet he'd be really into this...) We would get lots of good bands who are willing to play because they love making music and getting heard, not for money (in this day, this may prove to be the hardest part!) They could sell their merch., but otherwise be making no money on the gig. It's kind of like a charity, right? We would charge for people to have booths to sell their goods at, but not outragouse prices, just for the sake of covering some of the cost of the site. We'd have food venders, homebusinesses (like handmade goods,) organizations and non-profit goups (of course only peaceful ones!) People would camp at the site for the festival, and they would only pay what it costs to camp there (of course, at the group rate.) I think the biggest problem I'm thinking of right now (the point my husband brought up to me) would be the sound equipment and stages. We would have to be renting these, and this can be very expensive! Perhaps because this is a nonprofit event some one would donate it?! That would be what to hope for, and try to get, IMHO! So what does everybody think?
i think it sounds like a very good idea. all your points were great, but I think you would overall get alot more people to see it if you went on tour. where i live there is alot of open spaces like that, public and private, but im sure that many of the nice people would let you use their land for free. im not sure where you would get the sound equipment and stages, but if i would be able to travel along with it i know i would help set up each festival, and i have friends that would help also, all for free
that's a bitchin' idea. i'd be willing to help any way i can. if you did take it on the road, i'd be able to set something up here. i may be a bit young, but i am older than my years. i can get things done. if you need anything, pm me
Thanks for the replies, so far! It is good to see at least some people willing to help with something bigger than their own gratification! These days there are yuppies everywhere who think only of themselves, it is refreshing to see something different! I don't think age is a problem in the least! I personally know how mature "young" people can be. People usually only live up to what they are expected to. But back to the topic! I would love to take something like this on the road, but that might be a little ambitouse for the first one! Also, I, personally would have a little trouble with it because my husband would have to take off work for the whole time (which is not an option) or I would have to go without him with my two little ones, which would be pretty hard (but lots of fun, I'm sure!) I really am wondering what we could do about equipment, does anyone have an idea about it?
when exactly do you plan on having this thing? it sounds lovely, by the way. if you want free music, my band would be glad to play, simply because thats what we like doing. the only problem is getting there, but tennessee isnt too far away from ohio. best of luck on your endeavour.
Thank you, adm! I am thinking that summer 2005 shouldn't be too soon, but maybe it is? I should say, if anyone is seriously interested in playing, volunteering, or even having a booth at a peace fest in ohio, you can pm me! But we can talk here, too, it!
summer '05 sounds great. i'll be out of school, and out on my own. how many days ya think it will be?
See, these are the kind of things we need to talk about... I don't know how many days. A weekend seems to short, but a week seem too long. What do you guys think?
i love the idea! theres not much i can do. you need to do some advertising too, nothing to fancy, just enough so people come and know about it. it would be cool if we could find a place that would donate peace stickers or buttons too. i think 4 days would be cool. not to long but not too short.
we can have everyone post flyers and posters in their towns and cities, mostly the big hang out spots for teens and college kids. that will p[retty much take care of publicity. and if the media hears about it, they'll cover it. i mean, we have people from all over the country on these forums, we have nationwide support. we should get in touch with the admin for hipforums and see if we can get a topic thing on the homepage of the website. you know? then everyone will see it and offer help. title it "The Peace Festival." or perhaps something encourageing help. i'm sure the ageing psychedelici rock bands would love to play one last peace convention... there's just no way to get to them. did woodstock cost anything? peace, keith sweezy
i'll post flyers. i'll be in sanfrancisco then and i'm sure a lot of the people there will want to go. will someone be making a flyer and then giving everyone here it so we can print it out and everything? or do we make our own? i guess this is something to decide later. here's some of the prices and other things i thought you might fing useful about woodstock 69: 1.60........Minimum hourly wage paid workers preparing the site 6.............Months of prep time before the festival 6.50........Price (in dollars) of advance sale ticket for a single day 8.............Price (in dollars) to be charged for a SINGLE day ticket at the gate 18............Number of doctors who treated 6,000 patients 36............Number of nurses who treated 6,000 patients 50............Number of additional doctors flown in from New York City on August 16 80............Width (in feet) of the stage 80............Lawsuits filed after the festival 346...........Number of off-duty New York City policemen hired at $50 per day each, joined by 100 local sheriffs, several hundred State Troopers and deputies from 12 counties 600...........Number of Port-O-Sans (portable toilets) 1,300..........Pounds of canned food, sandwiches and fruit flown in by emergency helicopters 1,500..........Paid (in dollars) for Santana's 45 minute performance. 4,062..........Ticket holders who received a refund check because they were unable to gain attendance 7,500..........Paid (in dollars) for The Grateful Dead to perform 11,200.........Paid (in dollars) for The Who to perform 50,000.........Reported price (in dollars) paid for 600 acres of Max Yasgur's pasture 500,000........Estimated cost of festival (in dollars), revised to $2.6 million ten months after 1,300,000.......Dollars collected in advance sales
Wow, that is a lot of information! Thanks, maryfairy! Now see, this is the thing. I really think it needs to be free, or REALLY cheap for people to go. However, I don't think that we should have to pay for people to go to a cheap or free fest, either. We would have to be able to get most of the costs either donated (which I doubt will happen,) or paid for by advanced ticket sales, vending fees, and that kind of thing. About flyers. I suppose as long as it has all the same information that everyone can make their own. Advertisement IS very important, so it is something to think about. I think everbody has good ideas, keep 'em coming!
The counterculture's biggest bash - it ultimately cost more than $2.4 million - was sponsored by four very different, and very young, men: John Roberts, Joel Rosenman, Artie Kornfeld and Michael Lang. The oldest of the four was 26. John Roberts supplied the money. He was heir to a drugstore and toothpaste manufacturing fortune. He had a multimillion-dollar trust fund, a University of Pennsylvania degree and a lieutenant's commission in the Army. He had seen exactly one rock concert, by the Beach Boys. Robert's slightly hipper friend, Joel Rosenman, the son of a prominent Long Island orthodontist, had just graduated from Yale Law School. In 1967, the mustachioed Rosenman, 24, was playing guitar for a lounge band in motels from Long Island to Las Vegas. Roberts and Rosenman met on a golf course in the fall of 1966. By winter 1967, they shared an apartment and were trying to figure out what they ought to do with the rest of their lives. They had one idea: to create a screwball situation comedy for television, kind of like a male version of "I Love Lucy". "It was an office comedy about two pals with more money than brains and a thirst for adventure." Rosenman said. "Every week they would get into a different business venture in some nutty scheme. And every week they would be rescued in the nick of time from their fate. " To get plot ideas for their sitcom, Roberts and Rosenman put a classified ad in the Wall Street Journal and The New York Times in March 1968: "Young Men With Unlimited Capital looking for interesting, legitimate investment opportunities and business propositions. " They got thousands of replies, including one for biodegradable golf balls. Another seemed strange enough to work as a real business venture; Ski-bobs, bicycles on skis that were a fad in Europe. Roberts and Rosenman researched the idea before abandoning it. In the process, the two went from would-be television writers to wanna-be venture capitalists. "Somehow, we became the characters in our own show," Rosenman said. Artie Kornfield, 25, wore a suit, but the lapels were a little wide and his hair brushed the top of his ears. He was a vice president at Capitol Records. He smoked hash in the office and was the company's connection with the rockers who were starting to sell millions of records. Kornfeld had written maybe 30 hit singles, among them "Dead Man's Curve," recorded by Jan and Dean. He also wrote songs and produced the music for the Cowsills. Michael Lang didn't wear shoes very often. Friends described him as a cosmic pixie, with a head full of curly black hair that bounced to his shoulders. At 23, he owned what may have been the first head shop inthe state of Flordia. In 1968, Lang had produced one of the biggest rock shows ever, the two-day Miami Pop Festival, which drew 40,000 people. At 24, Lang was the manager of a rock group called Train, which he wanted to sign to a record deal. He bought his proposal to Kornfeld at Capitol Records in late December 1968.
ALright.....this sounds like an awesome idea. I'm In. Honestly and 100% in. Let's see here... So first off, forget the flyers/advertising/etc. for now. The major thing is finding the location. I'd say the best way to go about this is to set up one location, central U.S., at the begining of summer '05....Like...early June? That way, if the first festival turns out to be a big hit, that would be half the advertising for the next fest. Then, that second location could be set up and advertising would, like I said, be half way down. Am I clear on this or am I confusing? Let me know. Secondly.... Stages shouldn't be hard to find/set up... Otherwise, and this sounds nutty, but, if you find a location and no stage, make sure the location has a hill....preferably one that rises abruptly. LOL. Who needs a stage, than?! LMAO. Anyhow.... I hope this helps in someway....and maybe by next year I'll have a band together. I do know the members of a good band and they may do it but I'd have to talk to them closer to time. Their website is http://www.garageband.com/artist/Blindpoet3 You can listen to a few of their old songs on their... Okay, but, I think that everyone should have to pay like....I dunno...$2 to get into the booth/concert area, while campsites would go for like... $7/person? But if one group of people decide to rent two adjoining campsites they should get like one person free or something.....You know what I mean? Probbaly sounds stupid.... erh... I'm trying to think of things here.... Well, anyway, if you all need me to help than I'm with you all the way. That's for damn sure. Peace Fest will be born!!!!! Summer 2005. ....Guess what?! I'll be 18 on May 24th, 2005.....FREEDOM! LOL. L8er, guys.....Peace, love, and freedom.
Ok, real quick about the stages. You need a stage for the acustics, so that the sounds don't just go into the ground. I'll post more later, I'm going hiking with my doggies and kiddos, see ya!
Thought of something actually..... two things One---- The reason for having the first on in early June is not only the advertising for the second....but it gives time to set up a second location. We should set up the second location in advance and have it pending the results of the first fest. You know? Second--- We can't really figure out ticket prices until we know the approximate total cost of all expenses for the fest. So, 86 my cost suggestions. Loves.
