Out from left field.R Majority Whip Eric Cantor Loses Primary

Do you guys see this as a good thing or a bad thing?

I see it as a bad thing, because now immigration reform won't ever get passed now and the person that replaced Eric Cantor, is even more ideological rather than pragmatic and compromising.

And Eric Cantor wasn't that compromising either, but he did at least float the idea of supporting immigration reform, which is what most of the private sector wants so they can recruit top talent to stay competitive on the global market.

 

Idk, I didn't hear much at all yet about the person who beat him. I did happen to hear on msnbc an hour or so ago that some people think he was beaten was BECAUSE of an inability to pass immigration reform. But I don't know enough about the person who beat him to say if I agree, disagree or what not.

 

Cantor played the middle too much like Jeb Bush. Tried to be a liberal conservative and payed the price. This damn left/right dichotomy kills me.

Here's the guy he lost to, Dave Brat: http://adf.ly/pUbLu

 

I see it as a good thing. The radical tea party is NOT liked in VA as evidenced in their recent elections for governor and state legislatures. The low voter turn out had a tea partier beat Cantor who has not had contact with his constituents it was reported for over two years. So, while Cantor is himself a bit of tea partier, not just so radical on issues like immigration which is all the Brat person ran on, we know that the democrat in the race has a GOOD chance to take this seat.

 

This is a pipe dream. Sorry. No Dem gonna take this seat. No way, no how.

 

I see it as a good thing.

It goes to show how outspending your opponent $5,000,000 to $200,000 with the help of corporations doesn't guarantee a victory.

Good news to the people. Bad news for big business.

 

Mr Brat has declared that "it is a miracle from god" that he won. Alrighty then.

 

Apparently, although Cantor spent money, he really didn't campaign much in person. Low voter turnout - he didn't rally his base = another wing nut gets a shot at a seat. It is both funny and sad that these goofballs are winning primaries.

 

I'm just going on how quickly Virginians removed their all republican state cast. I think the entire nation is tired of do-nothing but something to make themselves rich republicans.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/06/us/politics/mcauliffe-is-elected-governor-in-virginia.html?_r=0


I don't see them embracing some tea party guy to fill some tea party's guy in the Fall.

 

Is it a good thing. Cantor lost touch with the people he was supposed to represent. I find it funny how anyone who has any affliation with "Tea Party" is labeled a nut. Look at what the guy stands for and he stands for Conservative Republican principles.

The immigration reform that has been spoken about has nothing to do with reform it only had to do with amnesty. That is not reform.

 

Democracy at work, the voters spoke louder than the money.

 

Indie

But you have argued against democracy and even suggested that wealth be given greater voting power so that it could block the votes of the majority.

 

Yeah, more dominionists trying to get more money from the poor and the government social programs so they can invest in more African Presidents and pay them to pass laws to kill gays. I cannot TELL you how unimpressed I am with this "yet another end-timers, born again, give me some money and I'll pray away the gay" tea partier.

 

Remember that when he's beaten by the democratic candidate.:sunny:

 

If you're an Indiana resident, what business is it of your's who Virginia voters select to represent them?
Obviously few here understand how democracy is meant to be put to use in U.S. government.

 

Indie

But do you actually support ‘democracy’ anyway - I mean you have argued against it and for a system where people with wealth would have extra voting power so that it could counter the votes of the majority.

Isn’t it a bit hypocritical to be seemingly ‘praising’ it when you are actually opposed to it?

 

Because it's an political indicator Individual, regarding power shifts and potential ripple effects when it comes to federal votes on legislation and policy. Especially with the misuse of the filibuster, every vote counts.

How are the parties reacting to the surprise? How are they posturing themselves.

Yes it's there representative, but all elections in the USA have a ripple effect on you as a citizen, and it also is interesting if you have family or business to do in Virginia as well.

 

It's just a primary election, and the people didn't feel they were being properly represented by the incumbent. Should the people not have a say in who they want to run for the seat?
And yes, I agree it's a political indicator, live with it.

 

Not my point.

It matters in how the meaning of Eric Cantor's departure is spun politically.


It may be as simple as him failing to be a good statesman, rather than a phrase he said publicly here or there about immigration or whatever policy.

My point is it is important to see the ripple effects because they don't stop at jurisdictional boundaries, or district lines.

It is not prudent to believe or think that because that's not my representative, that therefore it does not matter to me or shouldn't matter to others outside that district, or in this case, state.

Also your last line's tone of "live with it" is just rude because nowhere did I say they didn't have a right to elect whomever they wanted.

It's also an indicator of the Republican party's trustworthiness to lead at a national level and represent more than just a few ideological beliefs. Can they take perspective when shaping policy?

 

In my opinion the Virginia voters have spoken out against the republican 'party' in selecting a candidate who they feel will more faithfully represent them if elected.
It was not my intent to be rude, simply stating a fact.
It is also my opinion that for freedom to exist it must begin at the lowest levels of government, not distributed from the top. All the people, Left, Right, republican, democrat, as well as any others should have a voice in how our government is 'allowed' to function over their lives. A good leader is one who sets examples for others to follow, not one who simply produces rules by which all must submit to.