Our future as a controlled race

Discussion in 'The Future' started by lost in smoke, Mar 3, 2008.

  1. lost in smoke

    lost in smoke Member

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    The more and more i think about the future the less and less i want to be there. Over here in the u.k. there are talks of a national DNA database- open to the police.. ( making us all suspects ), when DNA evidence is still a very young and unreliable tool. We are also being threatened with ID cards- iris scans, biometric data, DNA, RFID chips- why should someone know where i am all the ime!. Whilst as being a british passport holder, the government have certain details about me, i am ok with that, as i want one to travel abroad. But i have the OPTION of having it.

    What i am angry, scared and upset about is that our government want to force us to be counted, for our DNA to be stored. They should not be allowed to do this. They are only human, they have no divine right to this data and there are so many blunders in data security at the moment that who knows who will have it.

    I also want no part in a race that is starting to merge with robots (bionic eyes on the futurist organization website) and have nano bots going through my body. i love being purely human and shudder for the day when we depend on A.I. for life.

    so many people in the developed world would not know how to survive if they couldnt buy their food from a shop or control their house temperature with the twist of a dial. I think as a race we must remember how to live as human beings without the use of automated or computer technology.
     
  2. ESRUOS ENO

    ESRUOS ENO Senior Member

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    it already is dependent .. We depend on each other as one... So be it.. so long sucker.....
     
  3. Xac

    Xac Visitor

    i agree... for the most part, so what is the lesser?
     
  4. foxtr0t

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    as our minds expand and become more complex proportionally so will our technology, but yes with that technology there will be biological consequences
     
  5. lost in smoke

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    human evolution is not same as technological evolution it is just part of evolution as a whole. There are other ways we as humans can evolve, grow and learn. As humans we could learn that computerised technology does not help us survive as well as basic human skills- that we are all losing. That is also evolving, learning by mistake, "survival of the fittest".
     
  6. semi_computer-geek

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    if and when the government forces and of the personal tracking crap on you, get a bunch of friends and their friends and their friends and so on who are on your side to protest against the government, and if there is a vote for it, get all of your friends friends to vote against it.

    Although there are many up sides to technology, like being able to use this site, being able to call up a friend to talk about a recent event or our music, without advances in our tech, how would have been able to make thousands of copies in minutes for our entertainment and so on.

    I personally think that, if it comes to it, we should put tracking devices ONLY on/in criminals of really serious offenses, not like possesion or use of illegals unless it ended in the death of several people.
     
  7. themnax

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    relax. the future isn't a "the". we make it us as we go along. not by wanting to of course, which is the only reason people think we don't. but by the incentives created statisticly by the values we mostly don't realize or pay attention to that we actually live by and the markets and 'markets' they create.

    that's what motivates policy and policy, in large part is what create conditions.
    story tellers and mythologies have a lot to do with those hidden and often subconscounseions values. not just those asssociated directly with beliefs, but those recognized only as entertainment as well.

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  8. MaximusXXX

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    I love what the British government is doing. Everyone should be tagged so they can be controlled.

    What's to worry??

    A world of a controlled people equals less, FAR less crime.
     
  9. spanishcastlemagic

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    I agree with you entirely, lost in smoke.

    The worrying thing is that talking about this issue with people usually leads to them saying "So what? that means lower crime right? how does it affect me? I have nothing to hide"

    We are giving up our rights at a ridiculous rate. But no one gives a fuck, because its all in the name of "preventing terrorism".
     
  10. themnax

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    economic interests would like eveything to be labled and controlled for their convenience. nature and reality on the other hand, are at their very root, while consistent with often learnable prinicipals, diversity.

    i think nature and reality have been arround a little longer and will continue to be, so it will be interesting to see what happens.

    the air we breathe comes from nature and not from symbolic value persuing the accumulation of more symbolic value.

    there are realities of nature's cycles of renewal, and it recycles everything 100%, that symbolic value and the understanding of the dynamics of symbolic value totally ignores.

    maybe we're getting past that, if we don't it will wake us up or kill us eventually.

    so this bussiness of all these things, this robbing of freedoms in the name of and on the pretense of the kind of pseudo-freedoms of symbolic value and letting economic intrestes essentially get away with murder, i don't see how it can survive the big impact between population and its own carelessness of natural reality with nature's cycles of renewal and how reality actually works.

    i can hear now the clamour of the partisans of econmic intrests asking what does this have to do with the subject of being subcutinously tagged with what are essentially micro-miniaturized i.f.f. transponders. well the answer to that of course, is that for the moment, these governments that are robbing our freedoms on the pretense of 'fighting' 'terrorism', well the answer to why the're so out of control and almost totally unresponsive to popular pressure and the public will, is that they've been essentially usurped by these corporate economic intrests.

    so what's going to happen? well, what seems most likely is that something with that situations IS going to chainge one way or the other. political and public will may bring about, or contribute to bringing about this chainge, or contribute to the attempt of doing so, but also natural events and collisions, both between these usurping economic intrests and natural reality, and perhapse even within and between those concerns themselves.

    i mean two things, one is certain, the finiteness of petrolium and other combustable fuel supplies, and the other, a quite probable economic collapse, truely international in scope. and of couse the head on collison course between population and resources and natural cycles of all sorts.

    yes, i think at some point there will be a colapse of our hallow assumptions we take for granted and that it will force those of us who survive it litterally, to relearn our dependence on natural reality and to get along with it.

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  11. Spiritawakening

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    It is scary, but only when you are prepared to back down and go with everything. Even if the rest of the world turns into brainwashed dummies, they have still chosen this and but you will still have the choice to change. but you can't change anything if you are going to make the choice to feel you have no control and go along with it.
     
  12. themnax

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    i think that makes a great deal of sense. people just need to learn to not take as holy writ everything their fed by corporate media. i think a lot of people now are realizing, and i hope a lot more will soon, that just because a "press" is controled by economic rather then political interests directly, doesn't make in any freeer then state controlled media under repressive regemes. i mean when the media, and it is, is controlled by the same economic intrests that have usurped the political proccess, well i don't see how that's not in ever real and practical way the same thing.

    and there ARE other sources, sources of REAL information. bloggers for one, and alternative media for another. of course now that people are starting to say and realize that, the corporate media is creating trojan horses that look like those alternatives too, and buying up blogspace providers and so on. but still there's amy goodman's democracy now, which may not always not be biased a little bit in the other direction, but by the gods covers real news and real stories the corporate infotainment media try to pretend don't exist.

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