Other Beliefs In The US.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Jimbee68, Nov 30, 2024.

  1. Jimbee68

    Jimbee68 Member

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    I've noticed something where I live. People are very respectful. Of other beliefs, of other views, of other religions. I've noticed that a lot in fact. In the US I mean.

    Where I live, metro Detroit, a while back they were selling clothing with verses from the Koran on it. The store didn't know. But when some Muslims pointed that out and that it was disrespectful, they took them off the shelves immediately. Americans always try to accommodate other beliefs even in public schools, like if girls want to wear a hajab.

    Things like the 2015 Charlie Hebdo shooting would never happen here, because people are never that disrespectful to the Muslim, or any, religion. I agree violence is never justified. But we also avoid it by being less disrespect to other beliefs and ways. The worst an American would really do is just criticize another religion. And even then, other Americans tell him he really shouldn't have.

    And some Muslim terrorists bomb us and kill us because they think we deserve to be hated. But we are so respectful of you and your beliefs. Did you know that?
     
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  2. Piobaire

    Piobaire Village Idiot

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    I'd just like to point out that Muslim terror attacks in the United States aren't really a thing.

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    Islamic Terrorism | Charles Kurzman

    On the other hand, "the number of domestic terrorist attacks and plots against government targets motivated by partisan political beliefs in the past five years is nearly triple the number of such incidents in the previous 25 years combined."
    The Rising Threat of Anti-Government Domestic Terrorism: What the Data Tells Us

    I'd be much safer having an immigrant Muslim family for neighbors than a native-born family of MAGA Brownshirts.
    Undocumented Immigrant Offending Rate Lower Than U.S.-Born Citizen Rate

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    As for American's "respect" for other's religious beliefs...
    Religions most commonly targeted by hate crimes U.S. 2023 | Statista
     
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  3. Toker

    Toker Lifetime Supporter

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    Yes, America was founded on the idea of freedom of religion. However many believe that the US is a Christian nation, and non-Christians need to respect that, if not convert.

    God forbid Christians should be "replaced"... or so they think.

    I'm truly surprised race is more of an issue in the US than religion.
     
  4. Jimbee68

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    Also, another thing if you are a Muslim and reading this. They say in Islam you are never supposed to graphically represent the prophet Muhammad, in pictures or art. I don't understand that really, but all right. We never do. No one in the US ever would do that. We respect that rule, even though we really don't have to.

    Search images of newspapers in the US, and websites and magazines. We would never break that rule. Even if belongs to another religion.
     
  5. Vessavana

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    I vaguely remember Sikhs being attacked in the US, because mistaken for muslims, not sure it is that idilic.

    That aside, I am not sure how to feel about an absolutist stance on freedom of speech and religion.

    I understand the foundation, both in principle and historic circumstance, but it also has some downsides - besides India, US is the biggest breeding ground for abusive cults and misuse of religion for financial gains, because everyone is so reluctant to do anything even when it is obviously abusive.
     
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  6. Jimbee68

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    I would just say, I'm not saying it's good or bad. But in the US, we just tend to respect other beliefs, even in the form of other customs. We would never depict the prophet Muhammad in any art or even illustration. Because we evetually found out that offends Muslims a lot. Most Americans aren't Muslim, and don't even fully understand that one. But we say, okay. Search the internet and you will never find even one US newspaper or site that depicts Muhammad.

    Now, you have a point. Sadly in the US people think violence is sometimes justified, especially when they feel they have no choice. Like on January 6th.

    I am not saying we're perfect, or better. I just find that an interesting cultural difference. Different countries try to find a balance between rights and respect. And I think we have a unique approach.
     
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  7. Wally Pitcher

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    We have to come to grips with the roll of religion in everyone's daily life. A summary of religions are Christians, Puritans-Evangelical, Muslims, Radical Muslims, Jewish, Conservative Jews, and Buddhists. The Family Values President plans to change the laws of this land to eliminate the separation of church and state. The founding fathers coded the separation of church and state because their ancestors had been enduring 200 years of religious wars. I had at least 50 ancestors executed because of one Christian Belief trying to force their religious views on another group with different views. The future of this country is on the edge of mass conflict. I do not want to have a convicted felon tell me on how to practice my faith. It is time for all Americans to wake up and kick intolerant extremists out of the government and/or out of the country.
     
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    I don't think any of that is done out of good faith to accommodate others' beliefs. I think more often than not, you'll find the culprit is fear of a PR nightmare or lawsuit.
     
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  9. Jimbee68

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    Of course when I was in RC grade school the teacher told us an evangelical Christian man once went to a Catholic church and threw the chalice of hosts on the floor yelling "Is this your God??!!" Or in New York fundamentalist Christians use bull horns to disrupt Wiccan services. Wiccans have to worship outside, you know. They interviewed one Wiccan woman once and she said, Do we go to Christian services and disrupt their meetings with bull horns?
     

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