Hey all, Just wondering a few things; The other week me and a friend did one tab each, which I am used to and comfortable with. I know its not really easy to tell with LSD, but I was hoping someone could give me an idea how two tabs of the same batch compare to one tab? The trip was wonderful on one tab, slightly seeing things, though not as much as I would like. I didn't get much (if any) of the "hearing colours, tasting music" thing, nor the "body morphing into object" stuff. Would doubling what I had last time really give me a worthwhile buzz? Also, how would three multiply it? It's hard to think of that doubling the dose would make the trip twice as much, and three tabs would triple the trip.. I don't know what it would multiply, so I'm guessing it just feels far more different. Thanks guys.
it will make it more intense and it will make it a lot different, but you're right in thinking that its not quite proper to think of it as "doubling" the effect just because you're doubling the dosage. it does depend a lot on the strength of the hits to begin with, too. personally i have only come into contact with weak blotter with a minimum standard dosage of two hits...and two hits of these blotters (possibly the same batch but found through different people at different times) generally is about as strong as an eighth of dried cubensis mushrooms, only longer lasting. but dosage per hit varies WILDLY with acid, so i can't say what two hits of your stuff is like. if one hit produces a good effect, it might be better than the stuff i've had in the past. one hit of that stuff would have an effect, but not a substantial one. but if you can handle a single hit with NO potential of problems, then two hits is very, very reasonable. its best to work up slowly, for sure.
If you liked one you'll be fine with two and although three MAY bew overwhelming you'll most likely enjoy it if you enjoyed the one. Thats my opinion. Unless you're prone to freaking out. And no, IMO it's not like doubling it. It just increases the intensity. Couldn't really fathom a method of figuring out by how much.
You like what you did, but want more intense, take more. I would take between between 2-4 next, but it sounds you are expecting certain things to happen when you trip. Don't, just let things happen and roll with it (you will understand later). My suggestion is take 3. By the way the lethal OD is on about a full sheet of GOOD acid. So honestly you can pretty much do as much as your mind can handle.
i'd be incredibly interested to see any reliable source for this statement, as i am under the impression, based on my limited understanding of the literature as a layman, that there have been NO records of a lethal overdose of LSD, pilocybin, or DMT. of course early on i'm sure they determined an LD50 for rats or something, but this doesnt inherently mean it would hold true for humans. i've heard tales of people accidentally consuming absolutely massive doses of LSD (particularly powder, thinking it was something else) and ending up fine - after a very long and intense trip. i'm sure there have been accidents on occasion and people have ended their lives one way or another while under the influence, but i understood that there is no data to suggest what, if any, dose of LSD would be lethal in humans.
No, don't think of it that way because the effects are dose related. double the amount won't double some of the effects you are already getting but it will cause other effects that did not show up at the lower threshold.
^good way to explain it its layers upon layers....some things will be more intense or long-lived, some effects may remain the same, some may be doubled, some wont, some may be more than doubled, and some new effects will likely emerge. think of it like this...taking one dose is like dipping a paintbrush in red paint and painting on a blank canvas if you take two hits, it might be like then dipping the same brush in some yellow paint and adding this to the picture. another hit will add another layer, more colors and combinations of colors and another...you get the point. they blend together, work off of one another, there will be more dichotomy, more duality, more of the "bigger picture" you'll get more of an understanding of the true nature of the psychedelic experience. but it wont just be the exact same experience but simply amplified. it will be a different type of experience altogether. at least, this is my experience with other psychedelics which have been available enough to me to experiment with dosages and combinations a bit (mushrooms primarily, as well as 2C-E, 2C-B, etc...most acid i ever got to take was probably 3 or 4 hits. i can't remember, but i'm not particularly experienced with acid specifically...but with psychedelics in general, i've got a lot of trips under my belt)
12,000 UG is the lethal dose (and yes that is LD50) Average hit is 50-150 ug I know you are unlikely to get 120 hits but based on that and 100 hits per sheet you have 12,000 ug (more then likely it would take 2 sheets to equal that) Erowid may not be 100% accurate all the time, but they are probably the most reliable source available. http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_dose.shtml And yeah it may not be the lethal dose for humans, but don't think there is not a lethal dose. It is just that it is so high, that nobody is realy stupid enough to try it. But either way, my point is that do as much as you feel you can mentally take because there realy is no way you will physically OD on acid. Sorry for the confusion, but like i said the point was not to get in depth of what is safe, but to let him know that 2+ hits is well within the safe limits.
yeah, for the amount of stuff they have information on. but no, they aren't the best source of information for any particular thing - just drugs in general. kind of an everymans guide to drugs no worries, thats pretty much what i was getting at, too, i think. i'm sure that at some point there is a lethal dose, but i know its nothing someone would reasonably take. there are {rumors, myths, anecdotes} about people thinking an amount of unlabeled, uncolored liquid in a refridgerator being mistaken for plain water or a small dose of GHB, there are similar stories of people mistakingly thinking what they stumbled across was powder to cocaine, only to find they'd done a bump of LSD. these are likely myths or tall tales, but its true that people can and do accidentally consume MASSIVE doses without any physical harm. as far as i'm aware there has never been a lethal dose and we can kill all the rats we want with the stuff but until a human dies from it there is no real data to base a HUMAN lethal dose on, even though rats and humans often have roughly the same effects with many drugs at the same dose in mg/kg but yeah, what we're both saying is two wont hurt you and people take far, far more without incident so you should be fine - as long as you can handle the effects comfortably.
The myth that floated around years ago (about 15 years ago) was about some chick that was trying to smuggle it through the airport and taped a bunch of sheets to herself and it absorbed in to her skin. Supposed she now is in a mental institute holding a big tube and thikns she is a glass of OJ and the tube is a straw. LOL So yeah, myths have surrounded LSD since the beginning.
doesnt erowid say that one guy injected 120,000 doses and died or something? of course thats more then a sheet but yeah.. could be wrong but i think i remembe reading it somewhere
i do believe that a well known chemist show up a few syringes full of lsd and died... seem's logical to me. not likely to happen for normal acid heads but logical.
I did one paper hit the other night and the sky was swirling...and while in the car it felt like i was flying threw space...so in my opinion...dont even bother with jelly tabs just go with the paper.
It was .3 grams and yes, they died. The abstract can be found on Erowid or maybe Lycaeum. I don't feel like searching it now, but it's easily found. That was Aldous Huxley (or it might have been Terrence McKenna, but I think he's still alive) and he asked his wife to give him "100 ug LSD, I.V." which she did. He was already dying when she gave it to him, though.
nahhh terrence died of a brain tumor in 02, sadly. it was like a really rare kind too. shitty. he went out tripping though...tripped his last time within months of his death
