I really want to have an OBE (Out of Body Experience) but have no clue how. Do I just meditate or do I have to be high? If you know could you please post instructions or send me a PM? Thanks I appreciate it.
First off, no just meditating will not give you an OBE, many people do get OBEs while meditating but these are normally accidents. Getting yourself high whilst having an OBE is plain stupid, it's asking for it really. When I say it I mean things like astral beings taking over various parts of your body, or sometimes full possesion. Sometimes even death can occur, though fortunately this is rare. The only situation where you would be able to get high for an OBE is if you use the drugs extremely carefully and have an experienced Shaman with you. The sort of drugs you'd be using would be the kind of things that if you tryed them without knowing what you'd be doing you'd wake up three weeks later in a mental hospital after thinking you were a chicken. Either that or you'd use weaker drugs like mushrooms or pot but even then you'd need a very precise amount. And with all these cases you need a shaman with you, and that for various reasons. Without one your body will not be protected and you can fall prey to various psychic attacks, including vampirism and possesion. Actually generally you'll need one to get you out of any trouble you might fall into. The reason you wouldn't need one if your doing a clean OBE (no drugs) is that your body (physical, astral, etheric etc) has emergancy backup systems, which basically sent you hurtling back to your body. Also it has a protection system which prevents any harm befalling your body when you're away. When you have drugs in your system, these emergency backup are normally disabled or weakened. The most effective way to have OBEs is to harmonise your bodies. This means being healthy physically and having all your energy channels working properly. It is these channels that your emergancy systems are based on. You've also got to be healthy emotionally, but you shouldn't worry too much about this because when you heal your body your emotions will heal with it. Also the first few of your out of body trips will be to places inside your own mind. You will continue to visit those areas of your subconscious until they are healed sufficiantly. If your bodies energies are not aligned properly then you will not be able to exit it. It would like trying to open open a door if the frame is completely skewed, forcing an OBE (drugs etc) is like smashing the door and damaging it. Once your bodies energies are aligned well enough stepping out of your body will just feel so natural, like stepping forward but your body happens to not be joining you. I hope this helps Sebbi
I don't know what you mean by this at all. Many people have had OBE's quite spontaneously, as a result of accident, surgical operation etc. They hadn't lost their minds, whatever that means. Unless of course we think that the mind is just another layer of the 'body'. The experience of being here in the body is quite spontaneous and requires nothing of us at all. It is our natural state. Also, the use of the word 'sober' implies that drugs such as lsd, on which some, myself included have had OBE's, are intoxicants in the same way that alchohol is. This is simply not the case.
i believe one cant force things like OBE, they will come with patience. Waiting for it will most likely prolong it, enjoy life and live for THIS moment, yeah lifes good. But that still doesnt mean you shouldnt meditate, its a beautiful thing so true.
oh boy sebbi.... can that stuff really happen? like when im high (but not fucked up), i meditate, and see if i get an obe, but i never really force to have one. whats all this astral stuff anyways? just wondering. anyways, if i get high before i meditate, i only use a small amount, only to relax, but not force an obe. one time i had one forced on to me and it wasnt pleasant.....
All depends if you believe/want to believe in stuff like that... funny thing is, if you believe in it it might just "actually happen". See, an OBE is most likely a form of dream/lucid dream, and the way dreams work with your anticipation and expectations, Not to discredit anyone's personal experiences or anything... but I've done proper WILDS (which is basicly the same as OBE induction techniques) where it seemed like an OBE, had all the characteristics of it but I was sceptic while having it and lo and behold, it was a lucid dream and i had control because I was sceptic and tried stuff out, and had a lucid dream and lots of fun. So i think its not real.... just my 2 cents, not claiming this as the absolute truth, just sharing another perspective on the matter.
Yes it can happen but it depends on how much control you have. If you have a little to relax then I can't see it being a problem. If you don't force OBEs and they just come to you then that means that everythings in check and you won't have any problems. I wouldn't worry about it if I were you. The astral plane is the plane of existance you operate on when having an OBE, that's why I always learned it "astral projection". Blessings Sebbi
_CT - A dreaming is a form of astral projection, it's just projecting to a certain area of the astral realm, i.e. our mind. As I said the first projections you get will be there. Blessings Sebbi
