Obama Scientist Challenges Climate Change Science

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  1. Motion

    Motion Senior Member

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    Interesting.

    It's more that he challenges the conclusions that people are making from the science.


     
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  2. Piobaire

    Piobaire Village Idiot

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    Wow; you really watch Faux News? LOL!
    66% of Fox News 'facts' are lies
    Koonin's considered to be so full of shit in scientific circles that he's even spawned a new word to describe his bullshit; "Kooninism". Leave it to Fox to dredge up the one contrived "contrarian" trying to flog his book in an attempt to refute 97% of the world's scientists on behalf of fossil fuel industries.
    Did a physicist become a climate truth teller?

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  3. Motion

    Motion Senior Member

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    ^^
    He says that what isn't settled is how the climate will respond to human influences and how that response will affect society and ecosystems? Is it true or not that scientist haven't figured those things out without speculating?
     
  4. TrudginAcrossTheTundra

    TrudginAcrossTheTundra Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    When the message conflicts with their assigned worldview and they can't challenge the message itself, the tactic is to attack the messenger and try to discredit the source using emotional warfare.

    Nobody is discrediting the science. The interpretations, however, are personal speculations attempting to correlate the data to their agendas.

    You find a penny on the sidewalk. You figure someone must have dropped it. But then an alarmist sees an opportunity and starts a story about how it fell from outer space and is a dangerous trend that'll kill people if they happen to be out and one falls on their head. Then they'll try to sell you on some protective or evasive measure to save you, which will cost you and benefit them. It's a very old trick yet still effective on many people.

    When they want to inject discord into your otherwise peaceful and pleasant life, they conjure up disaster scenarios to get you to let them do whatever they want in order to "save" you. And most people fall for it because they just want to be taken care of.
     
  5. Motion

    Motion Senior Member

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    I want someone on MSNBC to interview him. Or will they just avoid him?
     
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    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    MSNBC would interview him, but they would put him on with someone with the same credentials who could debate the issue.

    These days FOX News along with the rest of the radical-right are a lost cause.
     
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  7. Piobaire

    Piobaire Village Idiot

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    They should avoid him!
    When any of the corporate-sponsored MSM puts on a climate denialist, followed by a brief rebuttal from an actual climate scientist, it gives millions of viewers the false impression that there is actually still legitimate debate going on regarding the existence of anthropogenic climate change. There is not. There is greater scientific consensus that the climate is changing due to the actions of mankind than there is that smoking tobacco causes lung cancer. The only uncertainty at this point is how fast it will progress and how horrible it will become. It's existence is a given.

    NASA: Climate Change Evidence

    NASA; Scientific Consensus
     
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  8. Motion

    Motion Senior Member

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    What about him saying that global temperatures went down even as greenhouse gases increased from 1940 to 1970?
     
  9. Piobaire

    Piobaire Village Idiot

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  10. soulcompromise

    soulcompromise Member HipForums Supporter

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    anything with "Obama" in its name shouldn't be called science....










    :rolleyes:

    Just to be thorough I need to say that I'm being facetious. :rolleyes:

    Obama was one of the most environmentally proactive presidents in history - especially in our time. Nixon was number one. :)
     
  11. soulcompromise

    soulcompromise Member HipForums Supporter

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    that must be what it is then
     
  12. soulcompromise

    soulcompromise Member HipForums Supporter

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    Just love that shirt.
     
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